I did not see in review where I had written, maybe here, but Abijah Bray was a huge man, so powerful and weighed over 350 pounds, will be fun to write more too, later. Larry 3 Jun 2014
Reference to Bray in Sumner Family History by George W. Moore, pgs. 323,
324, 572, 573. Also Hinshaw Vol 1, pgs. 105, 318. Also Willard Heiss Indiana Quaker Records, continues with Vol 6 and follows some of the families to fairly recent times.Heiss Indiana Quaker Records, Vol 5, pg. 21-25
7-31-1819 Abijah Bray con miscd & mustering for militia & mcd, also he appears to have been single as he is listed as being with his father Henry as rocf Caesars Creek MM, Ohio. Thus it appears that he was married to Isabella
Scott before and about July 31, 1819. Also it would appear he had born to him at lesat a couple of children because it also indicates that on Nov. 25, 1825 he and his family gct White Lick MM, Ind.8-26-1820 Isabell (Ibby) rec in mbrp. Same pg. as above, gct White Lick MM, Morgan Co., Ind. 10-25-1823
Rosa Ann Bray is also Rosy Ann; Ann and Rosanna. Rcd in Salem MM., Iowa
1-15-1840, Henry Co., Iowa.HEISS, Indian Quaker Rcds. Vol 5 pg. 318
12-13-1823 Abijah Bray & s Allen Richard & Seth Wilson rocf Lick Creek MM
08-12-1840 Ibby, (wife) & ch Seth Wilson, Ibby Scott, Nancy Ann, Keziah Massey, Ruth Jane & Sarah Elma rocf Salem MM, Ia.
03-16-1842 Abijah & fam gct Salem MM, Ia
02-22-1868 There is a record of Ann Bray gct Spring River MM Kansas. Cannot tell who this is, could it be Rosa Ann who had taken back her name by this time? She would have been in that area. Could have been any number of persons, including wives. Need to follow up with this meeting house for further records of these families.It has been generally assumed that this Isabel Scott died in infancy but that does not seem to be the case, thus far all still point to dt. of John Wilson Scott and Nancy Keith.
Further evidence is that about half the children's names coincide with the children of John W. Scott and Nancy, a naming pattern which is by itself convincing. The other half of the names of children coincide with the Bray side of the family.
Arta Blonshine, 12184 W. Hickory Dr., Boise, ID. 83704 received May 5, 1991. She questions the lineage of Isabella Scott as being the dt. of John W. Scott and Nancy Keith. Part of her problem was that on the information which she went by was that I had transposed the marriage date for her birthdate which in itself would have made the case doubtful. However, she did point out several other Jones families which I have thourougly checked out and none other comes close to ours. Thus we return to the only conclusion of evidence as that of John and Nancy Keith Scott. On her records it clearly names her father as John Scott.
There is a John Scott and Rachel in the Indiana Quaker records but not the line of Isabella, still most likely related. In Heiss, Vol 2, pg. 27, 80 of New Garden MM, Union Co., Indiana. They were rcvd in mbrp 5-24-1817 but it does not say from where.
This John Scott b. 12-26-177 d. 9-5-1846 Dover
Rachel 11-04-1778 4-29-1857 bur Oakridge, Grant Co., Ind.
Children
Jesse Horton 11-26-1799 9-30-1822 bur Dover MM, Ind ae 22y 1m 4d
(Step Son of John Scott)
1) Patsey 1-08-1805 m. Harrold 10-16-1824
2) Nancy 8-23-1806 m. Nathan Hoggatt, New Garden MM 7-28-1824
3) Anderson 5-23-1808 m. Mary Burnside 3-28-1828
4) Betsey (Elizabeth) 8-23-1810 m. David Rich at Concord MM 2-22-1832
5) Margaret 10-30-1812 m. Evan Benbow 6-20-1832
6) James 12-26-1814 m. Annis Arnet at Concord MM 4-20-1836
7) Phebe 10-29-1816 m. Elwood Baldwin at Concord MM 12-24-1834
8) Harriet 7-13-1819 m. William Pitts 4-2-1840 Concord MM
9) Stephen 7-13-1819 m. Mahala Arnett
children of Stephen: Eli, b. 6-21-1842
William 1-07-1844
Levi 1-21-1846
Ellwood 1-13-1849 Dover MM pg. 201
10) Jesse 1-5-1825 rpt dp & mcd now resides in limits of
Greenfield MM, that mtg req to treat 6-23-1852 w/o satisf. dis dtd 7-23-1851
There is also a Jesse, minor in care of John and Rachel, 4-19-1828, son or grandson, see Dover MM pg. 201 Vol 2.Arta Also noted "I notice the Orange Co., Ind. listing for Abijah & Isabell shows he was 16/26 as was Isabell, ...I also noted they had 2 children. I assume the Henry Jr., John & Edward listed in Orange Co. census are also sons of Henry Sr.
She also suggests that we look at John Scott whose parents were Joseph and Sarah. Also that Isabella was born about 1792-1802, possibly earlier & to check the Quaker records for her. She also suggested some other Scotts to look into as possible parents of Isabella.
I also checked the Scotts in the same census and the only ones I located in Orange Co. was Isaac Scott pg. 133 male age 26/45; 2 female 10; female 26/45 pg. 130 (Isaac) pg. 133.
Since both were in the same area and listed on the census pages to indicate they did not live far from the Bray families, to me it certainly suggests this Scott line of Orange Co. were likely Isabella Kin.
There is possibly another Scott in Orange Co. prior to 1820 since the wife of William L. Scott son of John and Nancy, was a Nancy Scott born 12 Apr 1797 in Tenn. and married William L. Scott in Orange Co., in 1816. Marriage records definitely show her maiden name to be Scott.
Have you written to Crawford Co., Ind. for a copy of Abijah and Isabella marriage license, or to Indiana for their death certificates they tell have had some kind of death record at that time. ...etc."
She also suggests that we consider a Martin Scott of Crawford Co., pg. 9006 as father of Isabella, he has 2 sons and 3 dau., Martin and his wife 56 yrs old. They could have had a dau. b. 1798-1802. In 1820 when the census taken John and Nancy had dau. Nancy, sons Martin and Samuel still at home. Nancy m. in 1821 in Ill. Martin m. in 1830, Samuel d. 1831 unmarried....
I have gone all these families and have proven at least that they are not the line of Isabell. It all points to the exact same family, John W. and Nancy (Keith) Jones.Genelaogical Report of Findings by Opal Lousin, Aug. 4, 1986
We went to Mt. Pleasant, county seat of Salem County, Iowa and received a very warm welcome as we did in Mahaska Co. and Worth County... We went to Salem, south of Mt. Pleasant and saw the very large cemetery and walked over most of it. There is not Meeting House left at that cemetery, as usual - just a sextons quarter in a small building. The Meeting House is very new up in town. There was another cemetery northeast of the Meeting House. However, I can find no records of Abijah and Isabella (Scott) Bray's burials in the Quaker recors - only mentioning they cmae back to there in March of so of 1842 and died in June. The lady in charge of the Quaker records in Oskaloosa Yearly meeting said she ran across the information recently that Isabella lived a few days longer than Abijah. Therefore, since none of the older children died in any kind of epidemic, it is thought they became ill on the way back from Indiana and died from it or had had an accident. A son, Andrew, accoring to the Indiana Quaker Records, must have been born between 1840 when they came back from Salem MM to Indiana and when they left in the winter before March 1842. I have found nothing at all more about him and assume he may have died with them.
Abijah is listed in the 1840 census of Indiana.
From a letter of Jane Hartgrave, dtd. 29 Aug. 1958 to my father, Glenn Anderson, she writes concerning Abijah Bray: ..."My grandmother Andersons maiden name was Bray, I think mother said it was, her father weighed 300 pounds (grandmothers).
From notes compiled by Betty Holmes taken from Opal Lousin in 1981.
.."Abijah Bray and wife, Isabella and their children Abijah, Allen Richard, Seth, Ibby, Martin, John, Keziah, Ruth and Sarah went at the same time as Elijah Anderson Jr. and wife, Rosa Bray Anderson and their children, Allen Richard and Susanna, who had been born in 1839 and 1837 respectively, to Henry Co., Iowa where they stayed a short while in 1840, returned to Morgan Co., Iowa where possibly a son, Daniel, was born in 1841, if the Quaker records are accurate, and returned again to Mahaska or Jefferson Co., Iowa in the spring of 1842. Soon after we find in the records the children of Abijah Bray are referred to as "orphans" and so far no other records can be found as to the dates of their deaths. Some of the Bray children stayed in the Quaker Church, some were disowned for MOU, etc. Later joined another church with Seth and wife and family going to Kansas."...
Opal to Betty Holmes, From a letter to Betty Holmes by Opal Lousin, Aug 12, 1982: "... Abijah and Isabella must have died in the early summer of 1842. The country was overcome by Indians and there were skirmishes all the time together with slave problems crossing into Iowa from Missouri and since Abijah had already been quilty of mustering after the militia, possibly disaster of some kind happened, who knows. My grandfather, George Riley Anderson, was born in Iowa territory in Jun 1845, served in the Civil War - having gone with his mother and step-father and half brother Napoleaon Foskett to Taylor Co., Iowa in 1858, I can find absolutely no record of his brother Daniel b. 1842 or little before in Indiana and of course, we know about Allen who married in Keokuk Co. Just across the county line from where his mother had been living in Pleasant Grove Twp., Mahaska Co., Iowa where I foud all of them in the census of 1850. Their sister, Susanna m. Wm. Durbin of Ohio and stayed in Iowa ....
Opal Lousin, 3 Dec 1992, ..." I tried to get information from Clerk of Madison Co. Court, Richmond, Kentucky but they refuse to do any genealogical work and referred me to four genealogists. This was several years ago. The zip code is 40475 there.1830 Morgan Co., Indiana Census:
Bray, Abijah 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 30-40;
2 females under 5, 1 f. 5-10, 1 f. 10-15, 1 f. 30-40.Bray, John N. (probably Abijah's brother) - 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10, 1 from 10-15, 2 from 15-1-20, 1 from 50-60 and 1 female under 5, 1 f. from 5-10, 2 f. 10-15, 1 f. 15-20, 1 female 40-50.
Abijah was listed on p. 470 in census records in 1830 Morgan Co., Indiana
Henry Bray, Sr. Hendricks Co., p. 238:
Edward Bray, Sr. Hendricks Co., pg. 240
Edward Bray, Jr. Hendricks Co. p. 144
John H. Bray Morgan Co. p. 470
William Bray Morgan Co. p. 472
Richard Bray Hendricks Co. p. 246
Joseph Bray Hendricks Co. p. 238It looks as if Abijah and John were living together on same land or in same house again as was in 1820 in Orange Co.
1820 Census of Indiana
Abijah shows 1 male under 10, 1 male 16-25, 1 female under 10, and one from 16-25. (This listed elsewhere here).
Henry Bray, Sr. 1 female over 45, 1 female 26-44, 1 female16-25, 1 female
10-15, one male over 45. Edward Bray was 26-44, 2 females 10-15, 4 females under 10.
John Bray 1 male 26-44, 2 males under 10, 1 female 26-44, 1 female 16-25, 3 females under 10.Henry Bray, Sr. died in 1830 and Keziah died in 1836. See Bray information. we do not have any Will for Henry and anything about land records. This should be in Hendricks Co., or Morgan Co., Indiana records. Possibly Carol Morrison got copies as they went there to study. Henry and Keziah are buried in Old White Lick Friends Cem., a mile west of Mooresville and has a good marker.
ABIJAH BRAY born in N.C. and died abt. 1842 in Jefferson CO., Iowa
ISABELLA (SCOTT) 1843 " " "
(Probably died about then as Quaker records of Pleasant Plain MM stated the children were orphans and suffering.)
Allen Richard
Rosanna b. c 1819 m. Elijah Anderson, Jr. in Morgan Co., Ind.
Abijah Jones d. 11-3-1840 West Union MM, Ind.
Seth Wilson b. 1822 m. Keziah Bales and went to Kansas
Ibby Scott 1824 Indiana m. Bales, Beals
Nancy Ann m. Bales, Beals
Martin Riley
Jones Henry
Andrew c 1841 in Indiana?
Keziah Massey m. Bales, Beals
Ruth Jane
Sarah Elma Went to Kansas with Seth and family.Abijah Bray and family went to Salem MM, Henry Co., Iowa early 1840 back to White Lick MM, Ind. Later in 1840 where son died and another born. Back to Pleasant Plain MM, Jefferson Co., Iowa, where some children married contrary to discipline (mou) and stayed in chuurch and some were disowned and parents (Abijah & Isabella) evidently died between 1842-1847. No death records available. Insufficient records also.
8-12-1840 Abijah Bray and wife Ibby and children Seth, Wilson, Abijah Jones, Martin Riley, John Henry, Ibby Scott, Nancy Ann, Keziah Massesy, Ruth Jane and Sarah Elma rocf Salem MM, Iowa.
8-12-1840 Allen Richard Bray roc from Salem MM
8-16-1842 Abijah & family gct Salem MM, Iowa
9-12-1842 Allen R. gct Salem MM., Iowa(This shows that the Bray family stayed in Iowa after moving from Indiana.)
Salem MM records in Henry Co., Ind. indicate that in their meeting they discussed the problems of the "orphan children of Abijah Bray" and on June 25, 1842 a committee was appointed to visit them for their help and encouragement. By September 1842 some of the girls were being married and there was no futher mention of Abijah and Isabella Bray in their records. It was as if there had been a tragedy or serious illness that caused their deaths to require the Quakers to refer to the orphan children. Therefore, I assume we can say they died in the spring of 1842 in Salem MM jurisdiction in Henry Co., Iowa. Seth Bray married and went with his family and sister, Sarah, to Spring Crove MM, Crawford Co., Kansas in April 1860. (around Wichita?)
Mahaska Co. Courthouse records do not disclose any death or divorce for Elijah Anderson and Rosa Ann Bray Anderson. It may have been missed or he may have left the area and died elsewhere and then she remarried to Joseph Foskett (Fawcett) by about 1857.
"I did not check for marriage of Rosa Bray Anderson and Joseph Foskett in Oskaloosa, Mahaska Co, Iowa." Opal Lousin...From a letter to Jean, 22 July 1985:
Abajah Bray and wife, Isabella Scott went the second time to Henry Co., Iowa early in 1842 and then in June 1842 Quaker Minutes is where I found the grandchildren of "Abijah Bray are suffering". Some of their children had married soon after and within the next few years in Jefferson Co., Iowa. My great-Grandmother, Rosa Ann Bray Anderson, in 1850, was living in Mahaska Co. barely over the bornder from Keokuk Co. The Quakers have branches of their regular MM in order that people don't have to travel so many miles to attend church services and I think the Anderson's were supposed to attend one of the Pleasant Plain Preparative Meetings which reported to the Pleasant Plain MM in Jefferson County. Pleasant Plain was branched off from Salem MM of which Abijah and Isabella were members.
Now I am on the trail to try and get that one definite statement somewhere that Isabella Scott was definitely the daughter of John Scott and Nancy Keith. Isabella and Abijah were married late in 1818 or first part of 1819 most likely by Quaker ceremony but not according to their rigid rules in Harrison or most likely Orange Co., Ind.
Also, you will notice that some of her supposed to be siblings married into the Glenn family and some went to Osceola County, Iowa, which would not have been too far from Jefferson Co. except the transportation in those days would have made it difficult.See chart sent by Treva Lefler prepared by Mrs. Margaret Bray, 10104 S. Glen Road, Potomac Maryland, 20854 dtd March 29, 1971. Chart shows date of birth as December 15, 1797.
Moved to Morgan Co., IN, White Lick MM, 25 Oct 1823
Resided in Henry Co., IA, Salem MM, 15 Jan, 1840; 16 Mar 1842.
Resided 12 Aug 1840, Morgan Co., White Lick MM, IN.
Also know as Ibby, Quaker Families, See Sumner Family History by George W. Moore. For date of birth, she was married and shows up as family with Abijah as going to White Lick MM, 10-25-1823, already with some family. Also received into membership, Aug. 26, 1820. See pg. 25 of Heiss Indiana Quaker Records, Vo. 5. It is generally assumed that this Isabel Scott died in Infancy, but is not the case.
Further, about half the children's names coincide with her own brothers and sisters, the other half with the Bray side.
Opal Lousin, 3 Dec 1992. ..."I really think that Isabella Scott was born to John Wilson Scott and Nancy Keith around 1800 in Pendleton District, now Anderson Co., S.C. and married Abijah Bray either just before the two families left KY or arrived in Orange Co., Indiana. Quaker records show he married out of meeting or unity and was disowned temporarily for that as well as mustering after the militia. At that time the Indians were on the rampage in Orange Co., Ind. which was just being settled."...
May have been born in Jackson Co., Tenn. and married in Orange Co.,
Indiana. The Scotts had probably been members of the Presbyterian church.
Heiss Indiana Quaker Records, Vo. 5, pg. 291, Jemima Edith Bray, dt of
Abijah and Ibby d. 9-11-1839, buried in West Union MM.
See West Union MM notes of Heiss, pg. 44. West Union was set off from
White Lick MM and first held on the 16th of Fourth Month 1849. Located one
mile northease of Monrovia.
Heiss Indiana Quaker Records Vol 5, pg. 291. West Union had been a part
of White Lick, so the family did not have to move to become part of this
meeting.
A son Andrew, according to the Indiana Quaker Records, must have been born between 1840 when they came back from Salem MM to Indiana and when they left in the winter before March 1842. I have found nothing at all more about him and assume he may have died with them. (Opal Lousin)