SOURCE: History of Greene County, Pennsylvania by Samuel P. Bates, 1888. US/CAN 974.883 H2b,
FHLSOURCE: The Tenmile Country and Its Pioneer Families, A Genealogical History of the Upper
Monongahela Valley, by Howard L. Leckey, US/CAN 974.88 H2, FHL
This book is an oft-quoted resource for many of the other Guthrie publications. There is a section on Col. John Guthery & his family:
COLONEL JOHN GUTHERY
John Guthery (Guthrie, Gutherie, etc.) one of the prominent pioneer settlers on the Monongahela, settled near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek before 1772, where his name is found as an inmate or boarder in the Springhill Township, Bedford County tax lists for that year. According to his pension application from Pike County Ohio, October 13, 1820, he was living there in May 1776, when he enlisted in Captain Wilson’s Company (perhaps Lieutenant Colonel George Wilson) of the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental Line under command of Colonel Aeneas McKay, with which he was identified until May 1779. Records of the Regiment show that it was recruited at Fort Pitt and that many of its men came from the Monongahela River country. It assembled at Kittanning in the Fall of 1776, and marched from there in January 1777, to join Washington’s Army at Quibbletown, New Jersey. This march, in mid winter, was a terrible ordeal and many men died from exposure. After taking part in the in the Battles of Brandywine and Germantown, the Regiment went to Bound Brook, New Jersey, where it again saw battle. After this Battle, the Regiment was sent back to Fort Pitt in 1778, though a part of its men were detached and joined Colonel Morgan’s Rifle Corps and took part in the Battle of Saratoga. When the Regiment arrived at Fort Pitt a part of the fort was sent to Fort MacIntosh, but John Guthery says he was discharged after taking part in Colonel Brodhead’s Expedition against the Indians at Coshocton and on the Muskingum River. John Guthery had been made an Ensign on December 21, 1778. (For Complete story of this Regiment see Penna. Archives Series Vol. 3. Pp. 305-376.)
On his return to the Monongahela John Guthery was elected a captain of the militia company from his
district on Big Whitely Creek. L.C. Draper maintained one of the protective forts in his section. He was the captain of this company from 1780, until 1790, and then in 1793, was made a lieutenant colonel of the First Regiment of Washington County Militia in preparation for Wayne’s Campaign. From “Revolutionary Soldiers Buried in Ohio” pp.167, we learn that John Guthery was born in Pennsylvania, April 14, 1744 (although his pension claim of 1820 gives his age as 90 years old), and that he was of Scotch-Irish parentage. After selling his land on the Monongahela by a series of deeds recorded in Greene County Deed Books, he left here about 1797 or 1798, and we have the story of his migration from the pen of his daughter, Lydia (Guthery) Peters. She says that, “my parents with all their children except Francis, who died in infancy, took their flat boat from Greensboro down the Monongahela to Pittsburgh, thence down the Ohio to where Portsmouth now stands. Though not a tree of the primeval forest was cut, we ascended the Scioto River with our goods in a keel boat. Some of the family road on horse back over a blazed trail, while others followed on foot. We passed but one house the whole distance between the mouth of the Scioto and where Piketon now stands. We camped there all night and next morning resumed our journey. Father had to begin felling trees to get room to build a house at our destination, and while building the log cabin depended a great part on the abundance of wild game to feed his large family.” From a history of Pike County we learn that his claim was several miles south of Piketown, which he had caused to be laid out and which he was instrumental in making the first county seat. He died here June 1, 1823, and is buried in Mound Cemetery on his own land. This source also says that he married on March 1, 1771, Lydia Baldwin. She was a daughter of Francis and Charity (Hackney-nee Harlan) Baldwin and the mother of twelve children. Greene County records show that Lydia Baldwin had a tract of land facing on the Monongahela, near the present site of Greensboro, warranted to her on November 1, 1770, under the title “Lydia’s Bottom.” This tract was patented on April 17, 1792, to John and Lydia Guthery. John and Lydia Guthery were members of Goshen Baptist Church.FROM "THE GUTHRIE FAMILY OF GREENE COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA" BY MARY GRAY MAY
The first ancestor of which we have any knowledge was John Guthery of Greene County, Pennsylvania. At the time he settled there it was a part of Virginia. There was a dispute over the boundary line of the two colonies; eventually Pennsylvania won out but not until 1783. In order to get a better idea of John Guthery's whereabouts before, during and after the Revolution, let us have a look at the complicated changes that took place in Western Pennsylvania.................Bedford County included Greene from 1771 until 1773, prior to which time Greene was part of Cumberland County (which was established 27 January 1750) but little recognized as such.
Westmoreland County was set up February 26th, 1773 and included Washington and Greene but all west of the Monongahela clung to Virginia allegiance and was considered Augusta County, Virginia until the line was run in 1779 and approved in 1783. (Take careful note of this because it was on the west bank of the Monongahela that John Guthery lived and he would naturally consider himself a Virginian.)
Washington county was set up March 28th, 1781 and included Greene County. Greene County was set up in 1796, February 9th.
It was in 1797 or 1798 that John Guthery emigrated to Ohio, so he could not have lived in Greene County, Pennsylvania longer than a year or two. John Guthery's address was changed four times from 1771 to 1796 although he remained in the same locality.
There was a Colonel John Guthrie of Revolutionary fame living in Westmoreland County, the county seat of which is Greensburgh, which we must not confuse with our ancestor. It would be easy to do so as Laurence Guthrie in his history of other branches of Guthries in America has already done so. In this case the activities of our John Guthery have been attributed to the Colonel Guthrie of Westmoreland County, as well as his own achievements. This mistake was very easy to make, since our ancestor had only public records to his credit with never a biographer. With Mr. Howard Leckey's researches on the men of Greene County we now know who and what our ancestor was. Another fact to puzzle a genealogist was that the county seat of Greene County was once Greensburgh but was changed to Greensboro to avoid confusion with the other Greensburgh, Pennsylvania.
Mr. Leckey says there is so far as he has been able to find out no connection with the Guthries of Westmoreland County. They lived a hundred miles apart in country marked by mountain ridges when communications were difficult. Their history has been given by Mr. Laurence Guthrie. It seems evident that our Gutherys were first Virginians though they may have lived in one of the early Pennsylvania settlements where so many Scotch-Irish started from. There is a record of an Archibald "Guttry in the French and Indian War, a shadowy figure who lived in Lancaster, Pennsylvania settlement, who afterward went to western Pennsylvania, and Mr. Laurence Guthrie suggests he was possibly the father of John Guthery's neighbor in Green County, Archibald Guthrie. Mr. Leckey believes John and Archibald were brothers. John named a son Archibald. All this is merely circumstantial evidence and may be taken only as such, no proof is at present available. The Archibald Guthrie of Greene County was a member of the same regiment as our ancestor in the Revolution when they made the severe march into New Jersey. He lost his life during this campaign. He left many descendants, some of whom still live in Greene County.
The following account of John Guthery's military career was sent to Mrs. Carroll H. May and is to be published in Mr. Leckey's book on the Ten Mile Country, vol. VIII-IX................John Guthery(Guthrie, Gutherie, Guthrey, Gutrey) one of the prominent pioneer settlers on the Monongahela, settled near the mouth of the Big Whiteley Creek before 1772, where his name is found as an "inmate" or boarder in the SPRINGHILL TOWNSHIP, BEDFORD COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA tax lists for 1772. According to his pension application made from Pike County, Ohio, October 13, 1820, he was living there in May 1776, when he enlisted in Captain Wilson's company (probably Lt. Col. George Wilson) of the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental line, under the command of Colonel Angus McCoy with which he was identified until May 1779. Records of the regiment show that it was recruited at Fort Pitt and that many of its men came from the Monongahela country. It assembled at Kittanning in the fall of 1776 and marched from there in January 1777 to join Washington's army at Quibbletown, New Jersey. This march in midwinter was a terrible ordeal and many of the men died from exposure. (See Pennsylvania Archives: The 8th Pennsylvania travelled over hills for one hundred and fifty miles in the snow to Quibbletown, New Jersey, never once seeing a house on the way, but encamped in the snow. Many were unused to such conditions and died on the way; the Colonel and Lieutenant-Colonel and also Archibald Guthery Sr., who may have been brother to John Guthery.)
After taking part in the battles of Brandywine and Germantown, the regiment went to Bound Brook, New Jersey, where it again saw battle. It was returned to Fort Pitt in 1778 and a part of it was sent to Fort Macintosh, where, John Guthery says, he was discharged, after taking part in Colonel Broadhead's expedition against the Indians at Coschocton and on the Muskingum River. It would appear that while at Fort Macintosh John Guthery was made an ensign on December 21st, 1778. (For a complete record of this regiment see Pennsylvania Archives, Series V. vol. 3, pp. 305-376.)
On his return to the Monongahela, John Guthery was elected captain of a militia company from his district on Big Whiteley Creek and according to William Harrod Jr. in his interview with L. C. Draper, maintained one of the protective forts of the section, named Guthery's Fort or Fort Guthery, which was located beside the Monongahela River near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek and was occupied from 1776 to 1783.
The militia was the Minute Men of the region. They were subject to call without previous notice and many of them saw more rigorous service than the Continental regulars. They consisted of boys from the ages of fourteen to the early twenties largely, commanded by the older men, though boys not yet in their teens were sent out on scouting expeditions, with more mature members of the militia, along the wilderness trail to reconnoiter and report back to the neighborhood forts any news of an impending uprising. The discipline was loose and time of service was short. If they grew tired of the life or if they were needed back home, they simply went home and the term "deserter" did not convey a sense of ignominy that it does today. No disgrace was attached to it. Our John Guthery as Captain of one of these Battalions was very active both in maintaining the fort near his home and in acting as leader in scouting expeditions, or, as it was also called with perfectly honorable significance.........spying. Reference to his service in this capacity is to be found in the Pennsylvania Archives, Series VI, vol. 2, pp. 18-19, pp. 271.
Year 1782: First Battalion, Washington County. Recruited in Whiteley and Greene townships (now Greene County). A few were from Dundard township.
John Guthery (Captain)
Eleazer Clegg, LieutenantRichard Dotson (Dolloson), Sergeant
Gideon Long, EnsignJohn Roberts, Sergeant
Matthew Hanan, Sergeant
The names of fifty-two or more privates make up the list. And the following names are given of men who "also served tours with Captain Guthery".....................
Samuel SwindlerJohn Minor
Cecil DavisJohn Shipman
We also learn from "Revolutionary Soldiers Buried in Ohio", p. 167 that he was a Captain of this company from 1780 to 1790 and did further service in 1793. According to Mr. Howard Leckey, Sr., he was Lieutenant-Colonel of the 1st Regiment Pennsylvania Militia of Washington County in Anthony Wayne's campaign. His sons William and Archibald fought under him there. This account also states that Captain John Guthery was born on April 14, 1744. In his pension application he says he was born of Scotch-Irish parents. The family Bible says he was born April 14, 1744. This record also says that on March 13, 1771 he married Lydia Baldwin. She was the daughter of Francis and Charity (Harlan-Hackney) Baldwin. The records show that Lydia Baldwin had a tract of land warranted to her under the title "Lydia's Bottom" on November 1, 1770. It was situated near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek on the Monongahela River and was patented on April 17, 1792 by John Guthery and his wife Lydia. It was on this site that he maintained Fort Guthery from 1776-1783 and it was here they lived until they migrated to Ohio. The John Guthery-Lydia Baldwin patent contained 321 acres. Other Baldwin land totaled more than 1000 acres. Deeds of record showing evidence of the sales can be seen in the Harrisburg Land Office. "Lydia's Bottom" was situated adjacent to the present site of Greensboro, Pennsylvania, which was laid out by Elias Stone, brother-in-law of John Guthery in the year 1781. As has been previously stated it was first called Greensburg but later changed to Greensboro to avoid confusion with Greensburg of Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania.
In Mr. Howard L. Leckey's History of the Ten Mile Country, which was in the Monongahela region on the west side of the river and included the country drained by the Big Whiteley, the Little Whiteley, Dunkard, Muddy and Wheeling Creeks, he says two churches were built; one at Gerrard's Fort, the other at Jacob Van Meter's plantation on Muddy Creek. The Reverend Mr. John Corbly preached at both churches twice a month. These were of the Baptist persuasion and were stern in their doctrines and members were willing, as in the case of the earlier Puritans, to have their lives scrutinized and judged by their fellow community members. John Guthery's name, with his wife Lydia, is on this early list and may be seen with the names of their neighbors in Mr. Leckey's book. They attended the church at Big Whiteley Creek as it was near their home. They spent the whole day at church, which was a day of social diversion, of setting problems right, renewing old acquaintances, airing scandals, making matches, and otherwise uplifting their spirits and setting right the troubled experiences of the week. It was their guide and their help in time of trouble and we may envy them their source of inspiration and refreshment.
John Guthery's family of eleven children were now increasing in stature; indeed some of them were already grown and he had to look to the future. So, after selling his lands in Greene County, Pennsylvania, by a number of deeds of record, he moved by flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers to where Portsmouth now stands, and then up the Scioto River to his claim in what is now Pike County, Ohio. His lands are said to have covered several thousand acres. He later laid out the town of Piketon and was instrumental in making it the county seat; years afterward the county seat was moved to Waverly. He died June 1, 1823 and is buried in Mound Cemetery, on his original land. Mound Cemetery contains several Indian mounds and John Guthery, his wife and a daughter who was the mother of the famed Mother Stewart, famous Civil War nurse and Temperance reformer were laid in a brick vault in one of the mounds buried one above the other. Across the road from the cemetery is the site of the old family home of Colonel Guthery. Some years back it was pointed out to several of his descendants by Mr. Charles Daily, another descendant, who was the village druggist at Piketon. He said sometimes they found a brick from the old house on the site, the house itself having been long demolished.THE FAMILY AND BIBLE RECORD OF JOHN AND LYDYA BALDWIN GUTHERY
Contributed by Richard H. May of Mill Valley CaliforniaThe family Bible which belonged to John and Lydia Baldwin Guthery is in the Public Library at Chattanooga, Tennessee, given to that library along with other books from the estate of Mrs. C. C. (Annie Rathburn) Nottingham, who died in 1939. She was a great-great-grand-daughter of John and Lydia B. Guthery. (This bible may be known as the Guthery-Daniels Family Bible, perhaps so named because it had been in the possession of Rebecca Guthery Daniels who was the mother of the famed Civil War nurse Eliza Daniels "Mother" Stewart) Information about this Bible came to me through Mrs. Luther G. (Ima Gene Guthery) Boyd, of Akron, Ohio, OGS member, and Mrs. George S. (Patricia Guthery) Farmer, of Chattanooga, Tennessee. Apparently neither Mrs. Boyd nor Mrs. Farmer are descendants of John Guthery, but found this record in searching for their ancestors.
The title page from the New Testament of this Bible shows that it was printed in Oxford, (England) in 1768, by T. Wright and W. Gill, Printers to the University. John Guthery and Lydia Baldwin were married in 1771. They had 12 children, all born in what is now Greene County, Pennsylvania. One child died in infancy, but with the others they migrated in 1797 or 1798 to what is now Pike County, Ohio. Lydia B. Guthery died in 1816; John Guthery in 1823; both were buried in Mound Cemetery, near Piketon, Ohio. The 11 surviving children all married. Some remained in Pike County and died there; others moved north or west; and the descendants of at least one line moved south to Tennessee.
The family record given is quoted verbatim, so far as it can be read (some of it is very faint). Material in parentheses ( ) is added for clarification or to provide additional information.
William Guthery was born Jan. the 4th 1772
Arch'd (Archibald) Guthery was born Jan 20th 1774
John Guthery Jun'r was born Oct 25th 1776
Francis Guthery was born Jan 1th 1778
George Guthery was born Mar 26th 1779
Elisabeth Guthery was born Jan 26th 1781
Priscilla Guthery was born Jan 16th 1783
Aaron Guthery was born Dec 31th 1784
Rebekah Guthery was born Jan 21th 1786 (Rebecca)
Moses Guthery was born Feb 12th 1787
Joseph Guthery was born Mar 29th 1790
Lidya Guthery was born Oct 17th 1794John Guthery Sen'r was born April 14th 1744; Lidya Baldwin was born February 16 day 1755
Marriage John Guthery and Lidya Baldwin was married Mar 13th 1771
Deaths
Lidya Guthery Snr Departed this Life July 16th 1816
Rebekah (Rebecca) Dannel (Daniel) (died) June the 15th 1819
(She married James Daniel in 1808 and had two children)
John Guthery Senr Departed this Life June the 1 th 1823
Francis Baldwin Dec'd February 27 day 1794, in the 77th year of his age. (He was the father of Lidya Baldwin Guthery)
Betsy (Elizabeth) Peters died May 25th 1872 (She was the dau of Lidya Guthery Peters)Additional Births: (Husband and children of Lidya Guthery Peters)
William D. Peters was born Mar 4th 1790 (He married Lidya Guthery Dec. 16, 1817)
Elizabeth (Betsy) Peters daughter to William D. Peters and Lydia (sic) Peters was born December the 29th 1819
Pricylia ( Priscilla) Peters was born January the 24th 1822
Harriett Ann Peters was born January the 22, 1824
Alford Nuton (Newton) Peters was born February the 20 1826
John Jackson Peters was born February the 24th 1828
Willaim Boliever (Bolivar) Peters was born February 16th 1830
Francis Merian (Marion) Peters was born November the 29 1833PENSION APPLICATION OF JOHN GUTHERY, REVOLUTIONARY WAR - NATIONAL ARCHIVES FILE #S-41594..................................................State of Ohio - Pike County - Pike Court of common pleas of the Term of October 1820...............................On this 13th day of October 1820 personally appeared in Open Court - Court of common pleas in and for Pike County in the eight Circuit of duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provisions made by the acts of Congress of the 18th of March 1818 and the 1st day of May 1820, that he the said John Guthery for the term of three years sometime in May in the year 1776 in the State of Pennsylvania in the company commanded by Captain John Wilson of the 8th Regiment commanded by Colonel Angus McCoy and Lieutenant Colonel George Wilson in the line of the State of Pennsylvania on continental establishment, that he continued in said corps until May 1779 when he was discharged from said service at Fort McIntosh in the State of Pennsylvania, that he was in the battles of Brandywine, Germantown, Quibble Town, and the Battle with the Indians at Coshocton on the Muskingdom (sic) River and that he has no other evidence, now in his power, of his said services except what is herewith exhibited. And in pursuance of the act of Congress 1820 I do solemnly swear that I was a resident Citizen of the United States on the 16th day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen, and that I have not since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner disposed of my property of any part thereof with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an Act of Congress entitled "An Act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War" passed on the 18th day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen; and that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property or securities, contracts or debts due to me; nor have I any income other than that what is contained in the Schedule hereto annexed and by me subscribed...............
One Judgment on James C. Dunham for $85.00
One Judgment on John S. Taylor for 20.00
One Judgment on Samuel Vilett for 2.00
One Judgment on John Collier for 5.00
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$112.00
I am in due James McConnie by one note of hand...................................$215.00John Guthery
And this declarant further saith that he was formerly by occupation a Farmer but in consequence of old age and infirmity he is unable to pursue any labour toward his support that has no family living with him.
John GutherySworn to and declared on the 13th day of October 1820 in Open Court.
PLEASE SEE JANE RAMSAY NOTE CONCERNING HILLTOUN OF GUTHRIE KNOWN AS PIKERTOUNE (16TH CENTURY SCOTLAND).
From the Histroical Collections of Ohio by Henry Howe Vol. II 1888 we are given:
Among the earliest settlers in and about Piketon, were Jonathan Clark, Charley Cissna, Major Daniels, Joseph J. Martin - who was for years Lord High Of Everything of Pike County - The Brambles, Moores, Browns, Sargents, Praters, Nolans, Guthries and the Lucases. Most of these First Families came into the prairie about 1797, but the Lucas brothers came later.HISTORY OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY....By I. Daniel Rupp....Published by Gilbert Hills, Proprietor & Publisher....Lancaster city, Pa., 1846 (Selected notes and quotations)
"The first known settlements in Cumberland County were made in 1730, and at no great distance from the river. but new settlers came in very rapidly and passed up the North Valley, or the Kittochtinny Valley as then called, following the Conodoguinet and Yellow Breeches Creeks, and locating also upon Silver Spring, Letort Spring, Big Spring, Mean's Spring, Middle Spring, falling Spring, Rocky Spring and the different branches if the Conococheague, until in 1736 a line of settlements extended from the Susquehanna clear through to the western part of the province of Maryland. In 1748 there were 800 taxables in the valley, and in 1751 the number had increased to 1,100 indicating a population of at least 5,000 inhabitants. These, with the exception of about fifty German families in Franklin County, were immigrants from Ireland and Scotland, and the descendants of those who had taken root in Lancaster County.In 1751 a sudden and large increase in the flow of immigration commenced, which ministered greatly to the rapid settlement of the county. This tidal wave owed its origin to a very unusual and novel cause. In 1730 Secretary Logan* (himself an Irishman but in the confidence and pay of the proprietaries, and was probably against his own people) wrote thus: 'I must own from my own experience in the land office that the settlement of five families from Ireland gives me more trouble than fifty of any other people. Before we were broke in upon, ancient friends and first settlers lived happily, but now the case is quite altered.' The quick temper and belligerent character of this people, which kept them generally in a kind of chronic broil with their German neighbors, did not seem to improve with time, for in 1743 Secretary Peters wrote in very much the same strain as had done his predecessor, and even the Quaker forbearance of the Proprietaries finally became exhausted, so that in or about 1750, the year in which Cumberland County was organized, positive orders were issued to all the agents to sell no more land in either York or Lancaster County to the Irish, and to make very advantageous offers to those of them who would remove from these counties to the North Valley. These offers were so liberal that large numbers accepted, and built their huts among the wigwams of the native inhabitants, whom they found to be peaceful but by no means non-resistant."
///////// "In 1735, the North Valley, (now Cumberland and Franklin) was divided into two townships, Pennsborough & Hopewell.......Hopewell was divided in 1741, "by a line beginning at the North Hill, at Benj. Moor"s, thence to widow Hewres's and Samuel Jamison's, and on a straight line to the South Hill, and that the western division be called Antrim, and the eastern Hopewell."
Lt. Col John Guthery
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SOURCE: History of Greene County, Pennsylvania by Samuel P. Bates, 1888. US/CAN 974.883 H2b,
FHLSOURCE: The Tenmile Country and Its Pioneer Families, A Genealogical History of the Upper
Monongahela Valley, by Howard L. Leckey, US/CAN 974.88 H2, FHL
This book is an oft-quoted resource for many of the other Guthrie publications. There is a section on Col. John Guthery & his family:
COLONEL JOHN GUTHERY
John Guthery (Guthrie, Gutherie, etc.) one of the prominent pioneer settlers on the Monongahela, settled near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek before 1772, where his name is found as an inmate or boarder in the Springhill Township, Bedford County tax lists for that year. According to his pension application from Pike County Ohio, October 13, 1820, he was living there in May 1776, when he enlisted in Captain Wilson’s Company (perhaps Lieutenant Colonel George Wilson) of the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental Line under command of Colonel Aeneas McKay, with which he was identified until May 1779. Records of the Regiment show that it was recruited at Fort Pitt and that many of its men came from the Monongahela River country. It assembled at Kittanning in the Fall of 1776, and marched from there in January 1777, to join Washington’s Army at Quibbletown, New Jersey. This march, in mid winter, was a terrible ordeal and many men died from exposure. After taking part in the in the Battles of Brandywine and Germantown, the Regiment went to Bound Brook, New Jersey, where it again saw battle. After this Battle, the Regiment was sent back to Fort Pitt in 1778, though a part of its men were detached and joined Colonel Morgan’s Rifle Corps and took part in the Battle of Saratoga. When the Regiment arrived at Fort Pitt a part of the fort was sent to Fort MacIntosh, but John Guthery says he was discharged after taking part in Colonel Brodhead’s Expedition against the Indians at Coshocton and on the Muskingum River. John Guthery had been made an Ensign on December 21, 1778. (For Complete story of this Regiment see Penna. Archives Series Vol. 3. Pp. 305-376.)
On his return to the Monongahela John Guthery was elected a captain of the militia company from his
district on Big Whitely Creek. L.C. Draper maintained one of the protective forts in his section. He was the captain of this company from 1780, until 1790, and then in 1793, was made a lieutenant colonel of the First Regiment of Washington County Militia in preparation for Wayne’s Campaign. From “Revolutionary Soldiers Buried in Ohio” pp.167, we learn that John Guthery was born in Pennsylvania, April 14, 1744 (although his pension claim of 1820 gives his age as 90 years old), and that he was of Scotch-Irish parentage. After selling his land on the Monongahela by a series of deeds recorded in Greene County Deed Books, he left here about 1797 or 1798, and we have the story of his migration from the pen of his daughter, Lydia (Guthery) Peters. She says that, “my parents with all their children except Francis, who died in infancy, took their flat boat from Greensboro down the Monongahela to Pittsburgh, thence down the Ohio to where Portsmouth now stands. Though not a tree of the primeval forest was cut, we ascended the Scioto River with our goods in a keel boat. Some of the family road on horse back over a blazed trail, while others followed on foot. We passed but one house the whole distance between the mouth of the Scioto and where Piketon now stands. We camped there all night and next morning resumed our journey. Father had to begin felling trees to get room to build a house at our destination, and while building the log cabin depended a great part on the abundance of wild game to feed his large family.” From a history of Pike County we learn that his claim was several miles south of Piketown, which he had caused to be laid out and which he was instrumental in making the first county seat. He died here June 1, 1823, and is buried in Mound Cemetery on his own land. This source also says that he married on March 1, 1771, Lydia Baldwin. She was a daughter of Francis and Charity (Hackney-nee Harlan) Baldwin and the mother of twelve children. Greene County records show that Lydia Baldwin had a tract of land facing on the Monongahela, near the present site of Greensboro, warranted to her on November 1, 1770, under the title “Lydia’s Bottom.” This tract was patented on April 17, 1792, to John and Lydia Guthery. John and Lydia Guthery were members of Goshen Baptist Church.FROM "THE GUTHRIE FAMILY OF GREENE COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA" BY MARY GRAY MAY
The first ancestor of which we have any knowledge was John Guthery of Greene County, Pennsylvania. At the time he settled there it was a part of Virginia. There was a dispute over the boundary line of the two colonies; eventually Pennsylvania won out but not until 1783. In order to get a better idea of John Guthery's whereabouts before, during and after the Revolution, let us have a look at the complicated changes that took place in Western Pennsylvania.................Bedford County included Greene from 1771 until 1773, prior to which time Greene was part of Cumberland County (which was established 27 January 1750) but little recognized as such.
Westmoreland County was set up February 26th, 1773 and included Washington and Greene but all west of the Monongahela clung to Virginia allegiance and was considered Augusta County, Virginia until the line was run in 1779 and approved in 1783. (Take careful note of this because it was on the west bank of the Monongahela that John Guthery lived and he would naturally consider himself a Virginian.)
Washington county was set up March 28th, 1781 and included Greene County. Greene County was set up in 1796, February 9th.
It was in 1797 or 1798 that John Guthery emigrated to Ohio, so he could not have lived in Greene County, Pennsylvania longer than a year or two. John Guthery's address was changed four times from 1771 to 1796 although he remained in the same locality.
There was a Colonel John Guthrie of Revolutionary fame living in Westmoreland County, the county seat of which is Greensburgh, which we must not confuse with our ancestor. It would be easy to do so as Laurence Guthrie in his history of other branches of Guthries in America has already done so. In this case the activities of our John Guthery have been attributed to the Colonel Guthrie of Westmoreland County, as well as his own achievements. This mistake was very easy to make, since our ancestor had only public records to his credit with never a biographer. With Mr. Howard Leckey's researches on the men of Greene County we now know who and what our ancestor was. Another fact to puzzle a genealogist was that the county seat of Greene County was once Greensburgh but was changed to Greensboro to avoid confusion with the other Greensburgh, Pennsylvania.
Mr. Leckey says there is so far as he has been able to find out no connection with the Guthries of Westmoreland County. They lived a hundred miles apart in country marked by mountain ridges when communications were difficult. Their history has been given by Mr. Laurence Guthrie. It seems evident that our Gutherys were first Virginians though they may have lived in one of the early Pennsylvania settlements where so many Scotch-Irish started from. There is a record of an Archibald "Guttry in the French and Indian War, a shadowy figure who lived in Lancaster, Pennsylvania settlement, who afterward went to western Pennsylvania, and Mr. Laurence Guthrie suggests he was possibly the father of John Guthery's neighbor in Green County, Archibald Guthrie. Mr. Leckey believes John and Archibald were brothers. John named a son Archibald. All this is merely circumstantial evidence and may be taken only as such, no proof is at present available. The Archibald Guthrie of Greene County was a member of the same regiment as our ancestor in the Revolution when they made the severe march into New Jersey. He lost his life during this campaign. He left many descendants, some of whom still live in Greene County.
The following account of John Guthery's military career was sent to Mrs. Carroll H. May and is to be published in Mr. Leckey's book on the Ten Mile Country, vol. VIII-IX................John Guthery(Guthrie, Gutherie, Guthrey, Gutrey) one of the prominent pioneer settlers on the Monongahela, settled near the mouth of the Big Whiteley Creek before 1772, where his name is found as an "inmate" or boarder in the SPRINGHILL TOWNSHIP, BEDFORD COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA tax lists for 1772. According to his pension application made from Pike County, Ohio, October 13, 1820, he was living there in May 1776, when he enlisted in Captain Wilson's company (probably Lt. Col. George Wilson) of the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental line, under the command of Colonel Angus McCoy with which he was identified until May 1779. Records of the regiment show that it was recruited at Fort Pitt and that many of its men came from the Monongahela country. It assembled at Kittanning in the fall of 1776 and marched from there in January 1777 to join Washington's army at Quibbletown, New Jersey. This march in midwinter was a terrible ordeal and many of the men died from exposure. (See Pennsylvania Archives: The 8th Pennsylvania travelled over hills for one hundred and fifty miles in the snow to Quibbletown, New Jersey, never once seeing a house on the way, but encamped in the snow. Many were unused to such conditions and died on the way; the Colonel and Lieutenant-Colonel and also Archibald Guthery Sr., who may have been brother to John Guthery.)
After taking part in the battles of Brandywine and Germantown, the regiment went to Bound Brook, New Jersey, where it again saw battle. It was returned to Fort Pitt in 1778 and a part of it was sent to Fort Macintosh, where, John Guthery says, he was discharged, after taking part in Colonel Broadhead's expedition against the Indians at Coschocton and on the Muskingum River. It would appear that while at Fort Macintosh John Guthery was made an ensign on December 21st, 1778. (For a complete record of this regiment see Pennsylvania Archives, Series V. vol. 3, pp. 305-376.)
On his return to the Monongahela, John Guthery was elected captain of a militia company from his district on Big Whiteley Creek and according to William Harrod Jr. in his interview with L. C. Draper, maintained one of the protective forts of the section, named Guthery's Fort or Fort Guthery, which was located beside the Monongahela River near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek and was occupied from 1776 to 1783.
The militia was the Minute Men of the region. They were subject to call without previous notice and many of them saw more rigorous service than the Continental regulars. They consisted of boys from the ages of fourteen to the early twenties largely, commanded by the older men, though boys not yet in their teens were sent out on scouting expeditions, with more mature members of the militia, along the wilderness trail to reconnoiter and report back to the neighborhood forts any news of an impending uprising. The discipline was loose and time of service was short. If they grew tired of the life or if they were needed back home, they simply went home and the term "deserter" did not convey a sense of ignominy that it does today. No disgrace was attached to it. Our John Guthery as Captain of one of these Battalions was very active both in maintaining the fort near his home and in acting as leader in scouting expeditions, or, as it was also called with perfectly honorable significance.........spying. Reference to his service in this capacity is to be found in the Pennsylvania Archives, Series VI, vol. 2, pp. 18-19, pp. 271.
Year 1782: First Battalion, Washington County. Recruited in Whiteley and Greene townships (now Greene County). A few were from Dundard township.
John Guthery (Captain)
Eleazer Clegg, LieutenantRichard Dotson (Dolloson), Sergeant
Gideon Long, EnsignJohn Roberts, Sergeant
Matthew Hanan, Sergeant
The names of fifty-two or more privates make up the list. And the following names are given of men who "also served tours with Captain Guthery".....................
Samuel SwindlerJohn Minor
Cecil DavisJohn Shipman
We also learn from "Revolutionary Soldiers Buried in Ohio", p. 167 that he was a Captain of this company from 1780 to 1790 and did further service in 1793. According to Mr. Howard Leckey, Sr., he was Lieutenant-Colonel of the 1st Regiment Pennsylvania Militia of Washington County in Anthony Wayne's campaign. His sons William and Archibald fought under him there. This account also states that Captain John Guthery was born on April 14, 1744. In his pension application he says he was born of Scotch-Irish parents. The family Bible says he was born April 14, 1744. This record also says that on March 13, 1771 he married Lydia Baldwin. She was the daughter of Francis and Charity (Harlan-Hackney) Baldwin. The records show that Lydia Baldwin had a tract of land warranted to her under the title "Lydia's Bottom" on November 1, 1770. It was situated near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek on the Monongahela River and was patented on April 17, 1792 by John Guthery and his wife Lydia. It was on this site that he maintained Fort Guthery from 1776-1783 and it was here they lived until they migrated to Ohio. The John Guthery-Lydia Baldwin patent contained 321 acres. Other Baldwin land totaled more than 1000 acres. Deeds of record showing evidence of the sales can be seen in the Harrisburg Land Office. "Lydia's Bottom" was situated adjacent to the present site of Greensboro, Pennsylvania, which was laid out by Elias Stone, brother-in-law of John Guthery in the year 1781. As has been previously stated it was first called Greensburg but later changed to Greensboro to avoid confusion with Greensburg of Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania.
In Mr. Howard L. Leckey's History of the Ten Mile Country, which was in the Monongahela region on the west side of the river and included the country drained by the Big Whiteley, the Little Whiteley, Dunkard, Muddy and Wheeling Creeks, he says two churches were built; one at Gerrard's Fort, the other at Jacob Van Meter's plantation on Muddy Creek. The Reverend Mr. John Corbly preached at both churches twice a month. These were of the Baptist persuasion and were stern in their doctrines and members were willing, as in the case of the earlier Puritans, to have their lives scrutinized and judged by their fellow community members. John Guthery's name, with his wife Lydia, is on this early list and may be seen with the names of their neighbors in Mr. Leckey's book. They attended the church at Big Whiteley Creek as it was near their home. They spent the whole day at church, which was a day of social diversion, of setting problems right, renewing old acquaintances, airing scandals, making matches, and otherwise uplifting their spirits and setting right the troubled experiences of the week. It was their guide and their help in time of trouble and we may envy them their source of inspiration and refreshment.
John Guthery's family of eleven children were now increasing in stature; indeed some of them were already grown and he had to look to the future. So, after selling his lands in Greene County, Pennsylvania, by a number of deeds of record, he moved by flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers to where Portsmouth now stands, and then up the Scioto River to his claim in what is now Pike County, Ohio. His lands are said to have covered several thousand acres. He later laid out the town of Piketon and was instrumental in making it the county seat; years afterward the county seat was moved to Waverly. He died June 1, 1823 and is buried in Mound Cemetery, on his original land. Mound Cemetery contains several Indian mounds and John Guthery, his wife and a daughter who was the mother of the famed Mother Stewart, famous Civil War nurse and Temperance reformer were laid in a brick vault in one of the mounds buried one above the other. Across the road from the cemetery is the site of the old family home of Colonel Guthery. Some years back it was pointed out to several of his descendants by Mr. Charles Daily, another descendant, who was the village druggist at Piketon. He said sometimes they found a brick from the old house on the site, the house itself having been long demolished.THE FAMILY AND BIBLE RECORD OF JOHN AND LYDYA BALDWIN GUTHERY
Contributed by Richard H. May of Mill Valley CaliforniaThe family Bible which belonged to John and Lydia Baldwin Guthery is in the Public Library at Chattanooga, Tennessee, given to that library along with other books from the estate of Mrs. C. C. (Annie Rathburn) Nottingham, who died in 1939. She was a great-great-grand-daughter of John and Lydia B. Guthery. (This bible may be known as the Guthery-Daniels Family Bible, perhaps so named because it had been in the possession of Rebecca Guthery Daniels who was the mother of the famed Civil War nurse Eliza Daniels "Mother" Stewart) Information about this Bible came to me through Mrs. Luther G. (Ima Gene Guthery) Boyd, of Akron, Ohio, OGS member, and Mrs. George S. (Patricia Guthery) Farmer, of Chattanooga, Tennessee. Apparently neither Mrs. Boyd nor Mrs. Farmer are descendants of John Guthery, but found this record in searching for their ancestors.
The title page from the New Testament of this Bible shows that it was printed in Oxford, (England) in 1768, by T. Wright and W. Gill, Printers to the University. John Guthery and Lydia Baldwin were married in 1771. They had 12 children, all born in what is now Greene County, Pennsylvania. One child died in infancy, but with the others they migrated in 1797 or 1798 to what is now Pike County, Ohio. Lydia B. Guthery died in 1816; John Guthery in 1823; both were buried in Mound Cemetery, near Piketon, Ohio. The 11 surviving children all married. Some remained in Pike County and died there; others moved north or west; and the descendants of at least one line moved south to Tennessee.
The family record given is quoted verbatim, so far as it can be read (some of it is very faint). Material in parentheses ( ) is added for clarification or to provide additional information.
William Guthery was born Jan. the 4th 1772
Arch'd (Archibald) Guthery was born Jan 20th 1774
John Guthery Jun'r was born Oct 25th 1776
Francis Guthery was born Jan 1th 1778
George Guthery was born Mar 26th 1779
Elisabeth Guthery was born Jan 26th 1781
Priscilla Guthery was born Jan 16th 1783
Aaron Guthery was born Dec 31th 1784
Rebekah Guthery was born Jan 21th 1786 (Rebecca)
Moses Guthery was born Feb 12th 1787
Joseph Guthery was born Mar 29th 1790
Lidya Guthery was born Oct 17th 1794John Guthery Sen'r was born April 14th 1744; Lidya Baldwin was born February 16 day 1755
Marriage John Guthery and Lidya Baldwin was married Mar 13th 1771
Deaths
Lidya Guthery Snr Departed this Life July 16th 1816
Rebekah (Rebecca) Dannel (Daniel) (died) June the 15th 1819
(She married James Daniel in 1808 and had two children)
John Guthery Senr Departed this Life June the 1 th 1823
Francis Baldwin Dec'd February 27 day 1794, in the 77th year of his age. (He was the father of Lidya Baldwin Guthery)
Betsy (Elizabeth) Peters died May 25th 1872 (She was the dau of Lidya Guthery Peters)Additional Births: (Husband and children of Lidya Guthery Peters)
William D. Peters was born Mar 4th 1790 (He married Lidya Guthery Dec. 16, 1817)
Elizabeth (Betsy) Peters daughter to William D. Peters and Lydia (sic) Peters was born December the 29th 1819
Pricylia ( Priscilla) Peters was born January the 24th 1822
Harriett Ann Peters was born January the 22, 1824
Alford Nuton (Newton) Peters was born February the 20 1826
John Jackson Peters was born February the 24th 1828
Willaim Boliever (Bolivar) Peters was born February 16th 1830
Francis Merian (Marion) Peters was born November the 29 1833PENSION APPLICATION OF JOHN GUTHERY, REVOLUTIONARY WAR - NATIONAL ARCHIVES FILE #S-41594..................................................State of Ohio - Pike County - Pike Court of common pleas of the Term of October 1820...............................On this 13th day of October 1820 personally appeared in Open Court - Court of common pleas in and for Pike County in the eight Circuit of duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provisions made by the acts of Congress of the 18th of March 1818 and the 1st day of May 1820, that he the said John Guthery for the term of three years sometime in May in the year 1776 in the State of Pennsylvania in the company commanded by Captain John Wilson of the 8th Regiment commanded by Colonel Angus McCoy and Lieutenant Colonel George Wilson in the line of the State of Pennsylvania on continental establishment, that he continued in said corps until May 1779 when he was discharged from said service at Fort McIntosh in the State of Pennsylvania, that he was in the battles of Brandywine, Germantown, Quibble Town, and the Battle with the Indians at Coshocton on the Muskingdom (sic) River and that he has no other evidence, now in his power, of his said services except what is herewith exhibited. And in pursuance of the act of Congress 1820 I do solemnly swear that I was a resident Citizen of the United States on the 16th day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen, and that I have not since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner disposed of my property of any part thereof with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an Act of Congress entitled "An Act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War" passed on the 18th day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen; and that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property or securities, contracts or debts due to me; nor have I any income other than that what is contained in the Schedule hereto annexed and by me subscribed...............
One Judgment on James C. Dunham for $85.00
One Judgment on John S. Taylor for 20.00
One Judgment on Samuel Vilett for 2.00
One Judgment on John Collier for 5.00
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$112.00
I am in due James McConnie by one note of hand...................................$215.00John Guthery
And this declarant further saith that he was formerly by occupation a Farmer but in consequence of old age and infirmity he is unable to pursue any labour toward his support that has no family living with him.
John GutherySworn to and declared on the 13th day of October 1820 in Open Court.
PLEASE SEE JANE RAMSAY NOTE CONCERNING HILLTOUN OF GUTHRIE KNOWN AS PIKERTOUNE (16TH CENTURY SCOTLAND).
From the Histroical Collections of Ohio by Henry Howe Vol. II 1888 we are given:
Among the earliest settlers in and about Piketon, were Jonathan Clark, Charley Cissna, Major Daniels, Joseph J. Martin - who was for years Lord High Of Everything of Pike County - The Brambles, Moores, Browns, Sargents, Praters, Nolans, Guthries and the Lucases. Most of these First Families came into the prairie about 1797, but the Lucas brothers came later.HISTORY OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY....By I. Daniel Rupp....Published by Gilbert Hills, Proprietor & Publisher....Lancaster city, Pa., 1846 (Selected notes and quotations)
"The first known settlements in Cumberland County were made in 1730, and at no great distance from the river. but new settlers came in very rapidly and passed up the North Valley, or the Kittochtinny Valley as then called, following the Conodoguinet and Yellow Breeches Creeks, and locating also upon Silver Spring, Letort Spring, Big Spring, Mean's Spring, Middle Spring, falling Spring, Rocky Spring and the different branches if the Conococheague, until in 1736 a line of settlements extended from the Susquehanna clear through to the western part of the province of Maryland. In 1748 there were 800 taxables in the valley, and in 1751 the number had increased to 1,100 indicating a population of at least 5,000 inhabitants. These, with the exception of about fifty German families in Franklin County, were immigrants from Ireland and Scotland, and the descendants of those who had taken root in Lancaster County.In 1751 a sudden and large increase in the flow of immigration commenced, which ministered greatly to the rapid settlement of the county. This tidal wave owed its origin to a very unusual and novel cause. In 1730 Secretary Logan* (himself an Irishman but in the confidence and pay of the proprietaries, and was probably against his own people) wrote thus: 'I must own from my own experience in the land office that the settlement of five families from Ireland gives me more trouble than fifty of any other people. Before we were broke in upon, ancient friends and first settlers lived happily, but now the case is quite altered.' The quick temper and belligerent character of this people, which kept them generally in a kind of chronic broil with their German neighbors, did not seem to improve with time, for in 1743 Secretary Peters wrote in very much the same strain as had done his predecessor, and even the Quaker forbearance of the Proprietaries finally became exhausted, so that in or about 1750, the year in which Cumberland County was organized, positive orders were issued to all the agents to sell no more land in either York or Lancaster County to the Irish, and to make very advantageous offers to those of them who would remove from these counties to the North Valley. These offers were so liberal that large numbers accepted, and built their huts among the wigwams of the native inhabitants, whom they found to be peaceful but by no means non-resistant."
///////// "In 1735, the North Valley, (now Cumberland and Franklin) was divided into two townships, Pennsborough & Hopewell.......Hopewell was divided in 1741, "by a line beginning at the North Hill, at Benj. Moor"s, thence to widow Hewres's and Samuel Jamison's, and on a straight line to the South Hill, and that the western division be called Antrim, and the eastern Hopewell."
Lt. Col John Guthery
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SOURCE: History of Greene County, Pennsylvania by Samuel P. Bates, 1888. US/CAN 974.883 H2b,
FHLSOURCE: The Tenmile Country and Its Pioneer Families, A Genealogical History of the Upper
Monongahela Valley, by Howard L. Leckey, US/CAN 974.88 H2, FHL
This book is an oft-quoted resource for many of the other Guthrie publications. There is a section on Col. John Guthery & his family:
COLONEL JOHN GUTHERY
John Guthery (Guthrie, Gutherie, etc.) one of the prominent pioneer settlers on the Monongahela, settled near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek before 1772, where his name is found as an inmate or boarder in the Springhill Township, Bedford County tax lists for that year. According to his pension application from Pike County Ohio, October 13, 1820, he was living there in May 1776, when he enlisted in Captain Wilson’s Company (perhaps Lieutenant Colonel George Wilson) of the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental Line under command of Colonel Aeneas McKay, with which he was identified until May 1779. Records of the Regiment show that it was recruited at Fort Pitt and that many of its men came from the Monongahela River country. It assembled at Kittanning in the Fall of 1776, and marched from there in January 1777, to join Washington’s Army at Quibbletown, New Jersey. This march, in mid winter, was a terrible ordeal and many men died from exposure. After taking part in the in the Battles of Brandywine and Germantown, the Regiment went to Bound Brook, New Jersey, where it again saw battle. After this Battle, the Regiment was sent back to Fort Pitt in 1778, though a part of its men were detached and joined Colonel Morgan’s Rifle Corps and took part in the Battle of Saratoga. When the Regiment arrived at Fort Pitt a part of the fort was sent to Fort MacIntosh, but John Guthery says he was discharged after taking part in Colonel Brodhead’s Expedition against the Indians at Coshocton and on the Muskingum River. John Guthery had been made an Ensign on December 21, 1778. (For Complete story of this Regiment see Penna. Archives Series Vol. 3. Pp. 305-376.)
On his return to the Monongahela John Guthery was elected a captain of the militia company from his
district on Big Whitely Creek. L.C. Draper maintained one of the protective forts in his section. He was the captain of this company from 1780, until 1790, and then in 1793, was made a lieutenant colonel of the First Regiment of Washington County Militia in preparation for Wayne’s Campaign. From “Revolutionary Soldiers Buried in Ohio” pp.167, we learn that John Guthery was born in Pennsylvania, April 14, 1744 (although his pension claim of 1820 gives his age as 90 years old), and that he was of Scotch-Irish parentage. After selling his land on the Monongahela by a series of deeds recorded in Greene County Deed Books, he left here about 1797 or 1798, and we have the story of his migration from the pen of his daughter, Lydia (Guthery) Peters. She says that, “my parents with all their children except Francis, who died in infancy, took their flat boat from Greensboro down the Monongahela to Pittsburgh, thence down the Ohio to where Portsmouth now stands. Though not a tree of the primeval forest was cut, we ascended the Scioto River with our goods in a keel boat. Some of the family road on horse back over a blazed trail, while others followed on foot. We passed but one house the whole distance between the mouth of the Scioto and where Piketon now stands. We camped there all night and next morning resumed our journey. Father had to begin felling trees to get room to build a house at our destination, and while building the log cabin depended a great part on the abundance of wild game to feed his large family.” From a history of Pike County we learn that his claim was several miles south of Piketown, which he had caused to be laid out and which he was instrumental in making the first county seat. He died here June 1, 1823, and is buried in Mound Cemetery on his own land. This source also says that he married on March 1, 1771, Lydia Baldwin. She was a daughter of Francis and Charity (Hackney-nee Harlan) Baldwin and the mother of twelve children. Greene County records show that Lydia Baldwin had a tract of land facing on the Monongahela, near the present site of Greensboro, warranted to her on November 1, 1770, under the title “Lydia’s Bottom.” This tract was patented on April 17, 1792, to John and Lydia Guthery. John and Lydia Guthery were members of Goshen Baptist Church.FROM "THE GUTHRIE FAMILY OF GREENE COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA" BY MARY GRAY MAY
The first ancestor of which we have any knowledge was John Guthery of Greene County, Pennsylvania. At the time he settled there it was a part of Virginia. There was a dispute over the boundary line of the two colonies; eventually Pennsylvania won out but not until 1783. In order to get a better idea of John Guthery's whereabouts before, during and after the Revolution, let us have a look at the complicated changes that took place in Western Pennsylvania.................Bedford County included Greene from 1771 until 1773, prior to which time Greene was part of Cumberland County (which was established 27 January 1750) but little recognized as such.
Westmoreland County was set up February 26th, 1773 and included Washington and Greene but all west of the Monongahela clung to Virginia allegiance and was considered Augusta County, Virginia until the line was run in 1779 and approved in 1783. (Take careful note of this because it was on the west bank of the Monongahela that John Guthery lived and he would naturally consider himself a Virginian.)
Washington county was set up March 28th, 1781 and included Greene County. Greene County was set up in 1796, February 9th.
It was in 1797 or 1798 that John Guthery emigrated to Ohio, so he could not have lived in Greene County, Pennsylvania longer than a year or two. John Guthery's address was changed four times from 1771 to 1796 although he remained in the same locality.
There was a Colonel John Guthrie of Revolutionary fame living in Westmoreland County, the county seat of which is Greensburgh, which we must not confuse with our ancestor. It would be easy to do so as Laurence Guthrie in his history of other branches of Guthries in America has already done so. In this case the activities of our John Guthery have been attributed to the Colonel Guthrie of Westmoreland County, as well as his own achievements. This mistake was very easy to make, since our ancestor had only public records to his credit with never a biographer. With Mr. Howard Leckey's researches on the men of Greene County we now know who and what our ancestor was. Another fact to puzzle a genealogist was that the county seat of Greene County was once Greensburgh but was changed to Greensboro to avoid confusion with the other Greensburgh, Pennsylvania.
Mr. Leckey says there is so far as he has been able to find out no connection with the Guthries of Westmoreland County. They lived a hundred miles apart in country marked by mountain ridges when communications were difficult. Their history has been given by Mr. Laurence Guthrie. It seems evident that our Gutherys were first Virginians though they may have lived in one of the early Pennsylvania settlements where so many Scotch-Irish started from. There is a record of an Archibald "Guttry in the French and Indian War, a shadowy figure who lived in Lancaster, Pennsylvania settlement, who afterward went to western Pennsylvania, and Mr. Laurence Guthrie suggests he was possibly the father of John Guthery's neighbor in Green County, Archibald Guthrie. Mr. Leckey believes John and Archibald were brothers. John named a son Archibald. All this is merely circumstantial evidence and may be taken only as such, no proof is at present available. The Archibald Guthrie of Greene County was a member of the same regiment as our ancestor in the Revolution when they made the severe march into New Jersey. He lost his life during this campaign. He left many descendants, some of whom still live in Greene County.
The following account of John Guthery's military career was sent to Mrs. Carroll H. May and is to be published in Mr. Leckey's book on the Ten Mile Country, vol. VIII-IX................John Guthery(Guthrie, Gutherie, Guthrey, Gutrey) one of the prominent pioneer settlers on the Monongahela, settled near the mouth of the Big Whiteley Creek before 1772, where his name is found as an "inmate" or boarder in the SPRINGHILL TOWNSHIP, BEDFORD COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA tax lists for 1772. According to his pension application made from Pike County, Ohio, October 13, 1820, he was living there in May 1776, when he enlisted in Captain Wilson's company (probably Lt. Col. George Wilson) of the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental line, under the command of Colonel Angus McCoy with which he was identified until May 1779. Records of the regiment show that it was recruited at Fort Pitt and that many of its men came from the Monongahela country. It assembled at Kittanning in the fall of 1776 and marched from there in January 1777 to join Washington's army at Quibbletown, New Jersey. This march in midwinter was a terrible ordeal and many of the men died from exposure. (See Pennsylvania Archives: The 8th Pennsylvania travelled over hills for one hundred and fifty miles in the snow to Quibbletown, New Jersey, never once seeing a house on the way, but encamped in the snow. Many were unused to such conditions and died on the way; the Colonel and Lieutenant-Colonel and also Archibald Guthery Sr., who may have been brother to John Guthery.)
After taking part in the battles of Brandywine and Germantown, the regiment went to Bound Brook, New Jersey, where it again saw battle. It was returned to Fort Pitt in 1778 and a part of it was sent to Fort Macintosh, where, John Guthery says, he was discharged, after taking part in Colonel Broadhead's expedition against the Indians at Coschocton and on the Muskingum River. It would appear that while at Fort Macintosh John Guthery was made an ensign on December 21st, 1778. (For a complete record of this regiment see Pennsylvania Archives, Series V. vol. 3, pp. 305-376.)
On his return to the Monongahela, John Guthery was elected captain of a militia company from his district on Big Whiteley Creek and according to William Harrod Jr. in his interview with L. C. Draper, maintained one of the protective forts of the section, named Guthery's Fort or Fort Guthery, which was located beside the Monongahela River near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek and was occupied from 1776 to 1783.
The militia was the Minute Men of the region. They were subject to call without previous notice and many of them saw more rigorous service than the Continental regulars. They consisted of boys from the ages of fourteen to the early twenties largely, commanded by the older men, though boys not yet in their teens were sent out on scouting expeditions, with more mature members of the militia, along the wilderness trail to reconnoiter and report back to the neighborhood forts any news of an impending uprising. The discipline was loose and time of service was short. If they grew tired of the life or if they were needed back home, they simply went home and the term "deserter" did not convey a sense of ignominy that it does today. No disgrace was attached to it. Our John Guthery as Captain of one of these Battalions was very active both in maintaining the fort near his home and in acting as leader in scouting expeditions, or, as it was also called with perfectly honorable significance.........spying. Reference to his service in this capacity is to be found in the Pennsylvania Archives, Series VI, vol. 2, pp. 18-19, pp. 271.
Year 1782: First Battalion, Washington County. Recruited in Whiteley and Greene townships (now Greene County). A few were from Dundard township.
John Guthery (Captain)
Eleazer Clegg, LieutenantRichard Dotson (Dolloson), Sergeant
Gideon Long, EnsignJohn Roberts, Sergeant
Matthew Hanan, Sergeant
The names of fifty-two or more privates make up the list. And the following names are given of men who "also served tours with Captain Guthery".....................
Samuel SwindlerJohn Minor
Cecil DavisJohn Shipman
We also learn from "Revolutionary Soldiers Buried in Ohio", p. 167 that he was a Captain of this company from 1780 to 1790 and did further service in 1793. According to Mr. Howard Leckey, Sr., he was Lieutenant-Colonel of the 1st Regiment Pennsylvania Militia of Washington County in Anthony Wayne's campaign. His sons William and Archibald fought under him there. This account also states that Captain John Guthery was born on April 14, 1744. In his pension application he says he was born of Scotch-Irish parents. The family Bible says he was born April 14, 1744. This record also says that on March 13, 1771 he married Lydia Baldwin. She was the daughter of Francis and Charity (Harlan-Hackney) Baldwin. The records show that Lydia Baldwin had a tract of land warranted to her under the title "Lydia's Bottom" on November 1, 1770. It was situated near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek on the Monongahela River and was patented on April 17, 1792 by John Guthery and his wife Lydia. It was on this site that he maintained Fort Guthery from 1776-1783 and it was here they lived until they migrated to Ohio. The John Guthery-Lydia Baldwin patent contained 321 acres. Other Baldwin land totaled more than 1000 acres. Deeds of record showing evidence of the sales can be seen in the Harrisburg Land Office. "Lydia's Bottom" was situated adjacent to the present site of Greensboro, Pennsylvania, which was laid out by Elias Stone, brother-in-law of John Guthery in the year 1781. As has been previously stated it was first called Greensburg but later changed to Greensboro to avoid confusion with Greensburg of Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania.
In Mr. Howard L. Leckey's History of the Ten Mile Country, which was in the Monongahela region on the west side of the river and included the country drained by the Big Whiteley, the Little Whiteley, Dunkard, Muddy and Wheeling Creeks, he says two churches were built; one at Gerrard's Fort, the other at Jacob Van Meter's plantation on Muddy Creek. The Reverend Mr. John Corbly preached at both churches twice a month. These were of the Baptist persuasion and were stern in their doctrines and members were willing, as in the case of the earlier Puritans, to have their lives scrutinized and judged by their fellow community members. John Guthery's name, with his wife Lydia, is on this early list and may be seen with the names of their neighbors in Mr. Leckey's book. They attended the church at Big Whiteley Creek as it was near their home. They spent the whole day at church, which was a day of social diversion, of setting problems right, renewing old acquaintances, airing scandals, making matches, and otherwise uplifting their spirits and setting right the troubled experiences of the week. It was their guide and their help in time of trouble and we may envy them their source of inspiration and refreshment.
John Guthery's family of eleven children were now increasing in stature; indeed some of them were already grown and he had to look to the future. So, after selling his lands in Greene County, Pennsylvania, by a number of deeds of record, he moved by flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers to where Portsmouth now stands, and then up the Scioto River to his claim in what is now Pike County, Ohio. His lands are said to have covered several thousand acres. He later laid out the town of Piketon and was instrumental in making it the county seat; years afterward the county seat was moved to Waverly. He died June 1, 1823 and is buried in Mound Cemetery, on his original land. Mound Cemetery contains several Indian mounds and John Guthery, his wife and a daughter who was the mother of the famed Mother Stewart, famous Civil War nurse and Temperance reformer were laid in a brick vault in one of the mounds buried one above the other. Across the road from the cemetery is the site of the old family home of Colonel Guthery. Some years back it was pointed out to several of his descendants by Mr. Charles Daily, another descendant, who was the village druggist at Piketon. He said sometimes they found a brick from the old house on the site, the house itself having been long demolished.THE FAMILY AND BIBLE RECORD OF JOHN AND LYDYA BALDWIN GUTHERY
Contributed by Richard H. May of Mill Valley CaliforniaThe family Bible which belonged to John and Lydia Baldwin Guthery is in the Public Library at Chattanooga, Tennessee, given to that library along with other books from the estate of Mrs. C. C. (Annie Rathburn) Nottingham, who died in 1939. She was a great-great-grand-daughter of John and Lydia B. Guthery. (This bible may be known as the Guthery-Daniels Family Bible, perhaps so named because it had been in the possession of Rebecca Guthery Daniels who was the mother of the famed Civil War nurse Eliza Daniels "Mother" Stewart) Information about this Bible came to me through Mrs. Luther G. (Ima Gene Guthery) Boyd, of Akron, Ohio, OGS member, and Mrs. George S. (Patricia Guthery) Farmer, of Chattanooga, Tennessee. Apparently neither Mrs. Boyd nor Mrs. Farmer are descendants of John Guthery, but found this record in searching for their ancestors.
The title page from the New Testament of this Bible shows that it was printed in Oxford, (England) in 1768, by T. Wright and W. Gill, Printers to the University. John Guthery and Lydia Baldwin were married in 1771. They had 12 children, all born in what is now Greene County, Pennsylvania. One child died in infancy, but with the others they migrated in 1797 or 1798 to what is now Pike County, Ohio. Lydia B. Guthery died in 1816; John Guthery in 1823; both were buried in Mound Cemetery, near Piketon, Ohio. The 11 surviving children all married. Some remained in Pike County and died there; others moved north or west; and the descendants of at least one line moved south to Tennessee.
The family record given is quoted verbatim, so far as it can be read (some of it is very faint). Material in parentheses ( ) is added for clarification or to provide additional information.
William Guthery was born Jan. the 4th 1772
Arch'd (Archibald) Guthery was born Jan 20th 1774
John Guthery Jun'r was born Oct 25th 1776
Francis Guthery was born Jan 1th 1778
George Guthery was born Mar 26th 1779
Elisabeth Guthery was born Jan 26th 1781
Priscilla Guthery was born Jan 16th 1783
Aaron Guthery was born Dec 31th 1784
Rebekah Guthery was born Jan 21th 1786 (Rebecca)
Moses Guthery was born Feb 12th 1787
Joseph Guthery was born Mar 29th 1790
Lidya Guthery was born Oct 17th 1794John Guthery Sen'r was born April 14th 1744; Lidya Baldwin was born February 16 day 1755
Marriage John Guthery and Lidya Baldwin was married Mar 13th 1771
Deaths
Lidya Guthery Snr Departed this Life July 16th 1816
Rebekah (Rebecca) Dannel (Daniel) (died) June the 15th 1819
(She married James Daniel in 1808 and had two children)
John Guthery Senr Departed this Life June the 1 th 1823
Francis Baldwin Dec'd February 27 day 1794, in the 77th year of his age. (He was the father of Lidya Baldwin Guthery)
Betsy (Elizabeth) Peters died May 25th 1872 (She was the dau of Lidya Guthery Peters)Additional Births: (Husband and children of Lidya Guthery Peters)
William D. Peters was born Mar 4th 1790 (He married Lidya Guthery Dec. 16, 1817)
Elizabeth (Betsy) Peters daughter to William D. Peters and Lydia (sic) Peters was born December the 29th 1819
Pricylia ( Priscilla) Peters was born January the 24th 1822
Harriett Ann Peters was born January the 22, 1824
Alford Nuton (Newton) Peters was born February the 20 1826
John Jackson Peters was born February the 24th 1828
Willaim Boliever (Bolivar) Peters was born February 16th 1830
Francis Merian (Marion) Peters was born November the 29 1833PENSION APPLICATION OF JOHN GUTHERY, REVOLUTIONARY WAR - NATIONAL ARCHIVES FILE #S-41594..................................................State of Ohio - Pike County - Pike Court of common pleas of the Term of October 1820...............................On this 13th day of October 1820 personally appeared in Open Court - Court of common pleas in and for Pike County in the eight Circuit of duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provisions made by the acts of Congress of the 18th of March 1818 and the 1st day of May 1820, that he the said John Guthery for the term of three years sometime in May in the year 1776 in the State of Pennsylvania in the company commanded by Captain John Wilson of the 8th Regiment commanded by Colonel Angus McCoy and Lieutenant Colonel George Wilson in the line of the State of Pennsylvania on continental establishment, that he continued in said corps until May 1779 when he was discharged from said service at Fort McIntosh in the State of Pennsylvania, that he was in the battles of Brandywine, Germantown, Quibble Town, and the Battle with the Indians at Coshocton on the Muskingdom (sic) River and that he has no other evidence, now in his power, of his said services except what is herewith exhibited. And in pursuance of the act of Congress 1820 I do solemnly swear that I was a resident Citizen of the United States on the 16th day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen, and that I have not since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner disposed of my property of any part thereof with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an Act of Congress entitled "An Act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War" passed on the 18th day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen; and that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property or securities, contracts or debts due to me; nor have I any income other than that what is contained in the Schedule hereto annexed and by me subscribed...............
One Judgment on James C. Dunham for $85.00
One Judgment on John S. Taylor for 20.00
One Judgment on Samuel Vilett for 2.00
One Judgment on John Collier for 5.00
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$112.00
I am in due James McConnie by one note of hand...................................$215.00John Guthery
And this declarant further saith that he was formerly by occupation a Farmer but in consequence of old age and infirmity he is unable to pursue any labour toward his support that has no family living with him.
John GutherySworn to and declared on the 13th day of October 1820 in Open Court.
PLEASE SEE JANE RAMSAY NOTE CONCERNING HILLTOUN OF GUTHRIE KNOWN AS PIKERTOUNE (16TH CENTURY SCOTLAND).
From the Histroical Collections of Ohio by Henry Howe Vol. II 1888 we are given:
Among the earliest settlers in and about Piketon, were Jonathan Clark, Charley Cissna, Major Daniels, Joseph J. Martin - who was for years Lord High Of Everything of Pike County - The Brambles, Moores, Browns, Sargents, Praters, Nolans, Guthries and the Lucases. Most of these First Families came into the prairie about 1797, but the Lucas brothers came later.HISTORY OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY....By I. Daniel Rupp....Published by Gilbert Hills, Proprietor & Publisher....Lancaster city, Pa., 1846 (Selected notes and quotations)
"The first known settlements in Cumberland County were made in 1730, and at no great distance from the river. but new settlers came in very rapidly and passed up the North Valley, or the Kittochtinny Valley as then called, following the Conodoguinet and Yellow Breeches Creeks, and locating also upon Silver Spring, Letort Spring, Big Spring, Mean's Spring, Middle Spring, falling Spring, Rocky Spring and the different branches if the Conococheague, until in 1736 a line of settlements extended from the Susquehanna clear through to the western part of the province of Maryland. In 1748 there were 800 taxables in the valley, and in 1751 the number had increased to 1,100 indicating a population of at least 5,000 inhabitants. These, with the exception of about fifty German families in Franklin County, were immigrants from Ireland and Scotland, and the descendants of those who had taken root in Lancaster County.In 1751 a sudden and large increase in the flow of immigration commenced, which ministered greatly to the rapid settlement of the county. This tidal wave owed its origin to a very unusual and novel cause. In 1730 Secretary Logan* (himself an Irishman but in the confidence and pay of the proprietaries, and was probably against his own people) wrote thus: 'I must own from my own experience in the land office that the settlement of five families from Ireland gives me more trouble than fifty of any other people. Before we were broke in upon, ancient friends and first settlers lived happily, but now the case is quite altered.' The quick temper and belligerent character of this people, which kept them generally in a kind of chronic broil with their German neighbors, did not seem to improve with time, for in 1743 Secretary Peters wrote in very much the same strain as had done his predecessor, and even the Quaker forbearance of the Proprietaries finally became exhausted, so that in or about 1750, the year in which Cumberland County was organized, positive orders were issued to all the agents to sell no more land in either York or Lancaster County to the Irish, and to make very advantageous offers to those of them who would remove from these counties to the North Valley. These offers were so liberal that large numbers accepted, and built their huts among the wigwams of the native inhabitants, whom they found to be peaceful but by no means non-resistant."
///////// "In 1735, the North Valley, (now Cumberland and Franklin) was divided into two townships, Pennsborough & Hopewell.......Hopewell was divided in 1741, "by a line beginning at the North Hill, at Benj. Moor"s, thence to widow Hewres's and Samuel Jamison's, and on a straight line to the South Hill, and that the western division be called Antrim, and the eastern Hopewell."
Lt. Col John Guthery
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http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=24e70879-83e5-447f-a0cd-a1b3ef5ba459&tid=29253146&pid=123John Guthrey and Lydia Baldwin
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SOURCE: History of Greene County, Pennsylvania by Samuel P. Bates, 1888. US/CAN 974.883 H2b,
FHLSOURCE: The Tenmile Country and Its Pioneer Families, A Genealogical History of the Upper
Monongahela Valley, by Howard L. Leckey, US/CAN 974.88 H2, FHL
This book is an oft-quoted resource for many of the other Guthrie publications. There is a section on Col. John Guthery & his family:
COLONEL JOHN GUTHERY
John Guthery (Guthrie, Gutherie, etc.) one of the prominent pioneer settlers on the Monongahela, settled near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek before 1772, where his name is found as an inmate or boarder in the Springhill Township, Bedford County tax lists for that year. According to his pension application from Pike County Ohio, October 13, 1820, he was living there in May 1776, when he enlisted in Captain Wilson’s Company (perhaps Lieutenant Colonel George Wilson) of the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental Line under command of Colonel Aeneas McKay, with which he was identified until May 1779. Records of the Regiment show that it was recruited at Fort Pitt and that many of its men came from the Monongahela River country. It assembled at Kittanning in the Fall of 1776, and marched from there in January 1777, to join Washington’s Army at Quibbletown, New Jersey. This march, in mid winter, was a terrible ordeal and many men died from exposure. After taking part in the in the Battles of Brandywine and Germantown, the Regiment went to Bound Brook, New Jersey, where it again saw battle. After this Battle, the Regiment was sent back to Fort Pitt in 1778, though a part of its men were detached and joined Colonel Morgan’s Rifle Corps and took part in the Battle of Saratoga. When the Regiment arrived at Fort Pitt a part of the fort was sent to Fort MacIntosh, but John Guthery says he was discharged after taking part in Colonel Brodhead’s Expedition against the Indians at Coshocton and on the Muskingum River. John Guthery had been made an Ensign on December 21, 1778. (For Complete story of this Regiment see Penna. Archives Series Vol. 3. Pp. 305-376.)
On his return to the Monongahela John Guthery was elected a captain of the militia company from his
district on Big Whitely Creek. L.C. Draper maintained one of the protective forts in his section. He was the captain of this company from 1780, until 1790, and then in 1793, was made a lieutenant colonel of the First Regiment of Washington County Militia in preparation for Wayne’s Campaign. From “Revolutionary Soldiers Buried in Ohio” pp.167, we learn that John Guthery was born in Pennsylvania, April 14, 1744 (although his pension claim of 1820 gives his age as 90 years old), and that he was of Scotch-Irish parentage. After selling his land on the Monongahela by a series of deeds recorded in Greene County Deed Books, he left here about 1797 or 1798, and we have the story of his migration from the pen of his daughter, Lydia (Guthery) Peters. She says that, “my parents with all their children except Francis, who died in infancy, took their flat boat from Greensboro down the Monongahela to Pittsburgh, thence down the Ohio to where Portsmouth now stands. Though not a tree of the primeval forest was cut, we ascended the Scioto River with our goods in a keel boat. Some of the family road on horse back over a blazed trail, while others followed on foot. We passed but one house the whole distance between the mouth of the Scioto and where Piketon now stands. We camped there all night and next morning resumed our journey. Father had to begin felling trees to get room to build a house at our destination, and while building the log cabin depended a great part on the abundance of wild game to feed his large family.” From a history of Pike County we learn that his claim was several miles south of Piketown, which he had caused to be laid out and which he was instrumental in making the first county seat. He died here June 1, 1823, and is buried in Mound Cemetery on his own land. This source also says that he married on March 1, 1771, Lydia Baldwin. She was a daughter of Francis and Charity (Hackney-nee Harlan) Baldwin and the mother of twelve children. Greene County records show that Lydia Baldwin had a tract of land facing on the Monongahela, near the present site of Greensboro, warranted to her on November 1, 1770, under the title “Lydia’s Bottom.” This tract was patented on April 17, 1792, to John and Lydia Guthery. John and Lydia Guthery were members of Goshen Baptist Church.FROM "THE GUTHRIE FAMILY OF GREENE COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA" BY MARY GRAY MAY
The first ancestor of which we have any knowledge was John Guthery of Greene County, Pennsylvania. At the time he settled there it was a part of Virginia. There was a dispute over the boundary line of the two colonies; eventually Pennsylvania won out but not until 1783. In order to get a better idea of John Guthery's whereabouts before, during and after the Revolution, let us have a look at the complicated changes that took place in Western Pennsylvania.................Bedford County included Greene from 1771 until 1773, prior to which time Greene was part of Cumberland County (which was established 27 January 1750) but little recognized as such.
Westmoreland County was set up February 26th, 1773 and included Washington and Greene but all west of the Monongahela clung to Virginia allegiance and was considered Augusta County, Virginia until the line was run in 1779 and approved in 1783. (Take careful note of this because it was on the west bank of the Monongahela that John Guthery lived and he would naturally consider himself a Virginian.)
Washington county was set up March 28th, 1781 and included Greene County. Greene County was set up in 1796, February 9th.
It was in 1797 or 1798 that John Guthery emigrated to Ohio, so he could not have lived in Greene County, Pennsylvania longer than a year or two. John Guthery's address was changed four times from 1771 to 1796 although he remained in the same locality.
There was a Colonel John Guthrie of Revolutionary fame living in Westmoreland County, the county seat of which is Greensburgh, which we must not confuse with our ancestor. It would be easy to do so as Laurence Guthrie in his history of other branches of Guthries in America has already done so. In this case the activities of our John Guthery have been attributed to the Colonel Guthrie of Westmoreland County, as well as his own achievements. This mistake was very easy to make, since our ancestor had only public records to his credit with never a biographer. With Mr. Howard Leckey's researches on the men of Greene County we now know who and what our ancestor was. Another fact to puzzle a genealogist was that the county seat of Greene County was once Greensburgh but was changed to Greensboro to avoid confusion with the other Greensburgh, Pennsylvania.
Mr. Leckey says there is so far as he has been able to find out no connection with the Guthries of Westmoreland County. They lived a hundred miles apart in country marked by mountain ridges when communications were difficult. Their history has been given by Mr. Laurence Guthrie. It seems evident that our Gutherys were first Virginians though they may have lived in one of the early Pennsylvania settlements where so many Scotch-Irish started from. There is a record of an Archibald "Guttry in the French and Indian War, a shadowy figure who lived in Lancaster, Pennsylvania settlement, who afterward went to western Pennsylvania, and Mr. Laurence Guthrie suggests he was possibly the father of John Guthery's neighbor in Green County, Archibald Guthrie. Mr. Leckey believes John and Archibald were brothers. John named a son Archibald. All this is merely circumstantial evidence and may be taken only as such, no proof is at present available. The Archibald Guthrie of Greene County was a member of the same regiment as our ancestor in the Revolution when they made the severe march into New Jersey. He lost his life during this campaign. He left many descendants, some of whom still live in Greene County.
The following account of John Guthery's military career was sent to Mrs. Carroll H. May and is to be published in Mr. Leckey's book on the Ten Mile Country, vol. VIII-IX................John Guthery(Guthrie, Gutherie, Guthrey, Gutrey) one of the prominent pioneer settlers on the Monongahela, settled near the mouth of the Big Whiteley Creek before 1772, where his name is found as an "inmate" or boarder in the SPRINGHILL TOWNSHIP, BEDFORD COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA tax lists for 1772. According to his pension application made from Pike County, Ohio, October 13, 1820, he was living there in May 1776, when he enlisted in Captain Wilson's company (probably Lt. Col. George Wilson) of the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental line, under the command of Colonel Angus McCoy with which he was identified until May 1779. Records of the regiment show that it was recruited at Fort Pitt and that many of its men came from the Monongahela country. It assembled at Kittanning in the fall of 1776 and marched from there in January 1777 to join Washington's army at Quibbletown, New Jersey. This march in midwinter was a terrible ordeal and many of the men died from exposure. (See Pennsylvania Archives: The 8th Pennsylvania travelled over hills for one hundred and fifty miles in the snow to Quibbletown, New Jersey, never once seeing a house on the way, but encamped in the snow. Many were unused to such conditions and died on the way; the Colonel and Lieutenant-Colonel and also Archibald Guthery Sr., who may have been brother to John Guthery.)
After taking part in the battles of Brandywine and Germantown, the regiment went to Bound Brook, New Jersey, where it again saw battle. It was returned to Fort Pitt in 1778 and a part of it was sent to Fort Macintosh, where, John Guthery says, he was discharged, after taking part in Colonel Broadhead's expedition against the Indians at Coschocton and on the Muskingum River. It would appear that while at Fort Macintosh John Guthery was made an ensign on December 21st, 1778. (For a complete record of this regiment see Pennsylvania Archives, Series V. vol. 3, pp. 305-376.)
On his return to the Monongahela, John Guthery was elected captain of a militia company from his district on Big Whiteley Creek and according to William Harrod Jr. in his interview with L. C. Draper, maintained one of the protective forts of the section, named Guthery's Fort or Fort Guthery, which was located beside the Monongahela River near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek and was occupied from 1776 to 1783.
The militia was the Minute Men of the region. They were subject to call without previous notice and many of them saw more rigorous service than the Continental regulars. They consisted of boys from the ages of fourteen to the early twenties largely, commanded by the older men, though boys not yet in their teens were sent out on scouting expeditions, with more mature members of the militia, along the wilderness trail to reconnoiter and report back to the neighborhood forts any news of an impending uprising. The discipline was loose and time of service was short. If they grew tired of the life or if they were needed back home, they simply went home and the term "deserter" did not convey a sense of ignominy that it does today. No disgrace was attached to it. Our John Guthery as Captain of one of these Battalions was very active both in maintaining the fort near his home and in acting as leader in scouting expeditions, or, as it was also called with perfectly honorable significance.........spying. Reference to his service in this capacity is to be found in the Pennsylvania Archives, Series VI, vol. 2, pp. 18-19, pp. 271.
Year 1782: First Battalion, Washington County. Recruited in Whiteley and Greene townships (now Greene County). A few were from Dundard township.
John Guthery (Captain)
Eleazer Clegg, LieutenantRichard Dotson (Dolloson), Sergeant
Gideon Long, EnsignJohn Roberts, Sergeant
Matthew Hanan, Sergeant
The names of fifty-two or more privates make up the list. And the following names are given of men who "also served tours with Captain Guthery".....................
Samuel SwindlerJohn Minor
Cecil DavisJohn Shipman
We also learn from "Revolutionary Soldiers Buried in Ohio", p. 167 that he was a Captain of this company from 1780 to 1790 and did further service in 1793. According to Mr. Howard Leckey, Sr., he was Lieutenant-Colonel of the 1st Regiment Pennsylvania Militia of Washington County in Anthony Wayne's campaign. His sons William and Archibald fought under him there. This account also states that Captain John Guthery was born on April 14, 1744. In his pension application he says he was born of Scotch-Irish parents. The family Bible says he was born April 14, 1744. This record also says that on March 13, 1771 he married Lydia Baldwin. She was the daughter of Francis and Charity (Harlan-Hackney) Baldwin. The records show that Lydia Baldwin had a tract of land warranted to her under the title "Lydia's Bottom" on November 1, 1770. It was situated near the mouth of Big Whiteley Creek on the Monongahela River and was patented on April 17, 1792 by John Guthery and his wife Lydia. It was on this site that he maintained Fort Guthery from 1776-1783 and it was here they lived until they migrated to Ohio. The John Guthery-Lydia Baldwin patent contained 321 acres. Other Baldwin land totaled more than 1000 acres. Deeds of record showing evidence of the sales can be seen in the Harrisburg Land Office. "Lydia's Bottom" was situated adjacent to the present site of Greensboro, Pennsylvania, which was laid out by Elias Stone, brother-in-law of John Guthery in the year 1781. As has been previously stated it was first called Greensburg but later changed to Greensboro to avoid confusion with Greensburg of Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania.
In Mr. Howard L. Leckey's History of the Ten Mile Country, which was in the Monongahela region on the west side of the river and included the country drained by the Big Whiteley, the Little Whiteley, Dunkard, Muddy and Wheeling Creeks, he says two churches were built; one at Gerrard's Fort, the other at Jacob Van Meter's plantation on Muddy Creek. The Reverend Mr. John Corbly preached at both churches twice a month. These were of the Baptist persuasion and were stern in their doctrines and members were willing, as in the case of the earlier Puritans, to have their lives scrutinized and judged by their fellow community members. John Guthery's name, with his wife Lydia, is on this early list and may be seen with the names of their neighbors in Mr. Leckey's book. They attended the church at Big Whiteley Creek as it was near their home. They spent the whole day at church, which was a day of social diversion, of setting problems right, renewing old acquaintances, airing scandals, making matches, and otherwise uplifting their spirits and setting right the troubled experiences of the week. It was their guide and their help in time of trouble and we may envy them their source of inspiration and refreshment.
John Guthery's family of eleven children were now increasing in stature; indeed some of them were already grown and he had to look to the future. So, after selling his lands in Greene County, Pennsylvania, by a number of deeds of record, he moved by flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers to where Portsmouth now stands, and then up the Scioto River to his claim in what is now Pike County, Ohio. His lands are said to have covered several thousand acres. He later laid out the town of Piketon and was instrumental in making it the county seat; years afterward the county seat was moved to Waverly. He died June 1, 1823 and is buried in Mound Cemetery, on his original land. Mound Cemetery contains several Indian mounds and John Guthery, his wife and a daughter who was the mother of the famed Mother Stewart, famous Civil War nurse and Temperance reformer were laid in a brick vault in one of the mounds buried one above the other. Across the road from the cemetery is the site of the old family home of Colonel Guthery. Some years back it was pointed out to several of his descendants by Mr. Charles Daily, another descendant, who was the village druggist at Piketon. He said sometimes they found a brick from the old house on the site, the house itself having been long demolished.THE FAMILY AND BIBLE RECORD OF JOHN AND LYDYA BALDWIN GUTHERY
Contributed by Richard H. May of Mill Valley CaliforniaThe family Bible which belonged to John and Lydia Baldwin Guthery is in the Public Library at Chattanooga, Tennessee, given to that library along with other books from the estate of Mrs. C. C. (Annie Rathburn) Nottingham, who died in 1939. She was a great-great-grand-daughter of John and Lydia B. Guthery. (This bible may be known as the Guthery-Daniels Family Bible, perhaps so named because it had been in the possession of Rebecca Guthery Daniels who was the mother of the famed Civil War nurse Eliza Daniels "Mother" Stewart) Information about this Bible came to me through Mrs. Luther G. (Ima Gene Guthery) Boyd, of Akron, Ohio, OGS member, and Mrs. George S. (Patricia Guthery) Farmer, of Chattanooga, Tennessee. Apparently neither Mrs. Boyd nor Mrs. Farmer are descendants of John Guthery, but found this record in searching for their ancestors.
The title page from the New Testament of this Bible shows that it was printed in Oxford, (England) in 1768, by T. Wright and W. Gill, Printers to the University. John Guthery and Lydia Baldwin were married in 1771. They had 12 children, all born in what is now Greene County, Pennsylvania. One child died in infancy, but with the others they migrated in 1797 or 1798 to what is now Pike County, Ohio. Lydia B. Guthery died in 1816; John Guthery in 1823; both were buried in Mound Cemetery, near Piketon, Ohio. The 11 surviving children all married. Some remained in Pike County and died there; others moved north or west; and the descendants of at least one line moved south to Tennessee.
The family record given is quoted verbatim, so far as it can be read (some of it is very faint). Material in parentheses ( ) is added for clarification or to provide additional information.
William Guthery was born Jan. the 4th 1772
Arch'd (Archibald) Guthery was born Jan 20th 1774
John Guthery Jun'r was born Oct 25th 1776
Francis Guthery was born Jan 1th 1778
George Guthery was born Mar 26th 1779
Elisabeth Guthery was born Jan 26th 1781
Priscilla Guthery was born Jan 16th 1783
Aaron Guthery was born Dec 31th 1784
Rebekah Guthery was born Jan 21th 1786 (Rebecca)
Moses Guthery was born Feb 12th 1787
Joseph Guthery was born Mar 29th 1790
Lidya Guthery was born Oct 17th 1794John Guthery Sen'r was born April 14th 1744; Lidya Baldwin was born February 16 day 1755
Marriage John Guthery and Lidya Baldwin was married Mar 13th 1771
Deaths
Lidya Guthery Snr Departed this Life July 16th 1816
Rebekah (Rebecca) Dannel (Daniel) (died) June the 15th 1819
(She married James Daniel in 1808 and had two children)
John Guthery Senr Departed this Life June the 1 th 1823
Francis Baldwin Dec'd February 27 day 1794, in the 77th year of his age. (He was the father of Lidya Baldwin Guthery)
Betsy (Elizabeth) Peters died May 25th 1872 (She was the dau of Lidya Guthery Peters)Additional Births: (Husband and children of Lidya Guthery Peters)
William D. Peters was born Mar 4th 1790 (He married Lidya Guthery Dec. 16, 1817)
Elizabeth (Betsy) Peters daughter to William D. Peters and Lydia (sic) Peters was born December the 29th 1819
Pricylia ( Priscilla) Peters was born January the 24th 1822
Harriett Ann Peters was born January the 22, 1824
Alford Nuton (Newton) Peters was born February the 20 1826
John Jackson Peters was born February the 24th 1828
Willaim Boliever (Bolivar) Peters was born February 16th 1830
Francis Merian (Marion) Peters was born November the 29 1833PENSION APPLICATION OF JOHN GUTHERY, REVOLUTIONARY WAR - NATIONAL ARCHIVES FILE #S-41594..................................................State of Ohio - Pike County - Pike Court of common pleas of the Term of October 1820...............................On this 13th day of October 1820 personally appeared in Open Court - Court of common pleas in and for Pike County in the eight Circuit of duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provisions made by the acts of Congress of the 18th of March 1818 and the 1st day of May 1820, that he the said John Guthery for the term of three years sometime in May in the year 1776 in the State of Pennsylvania in the company commanded by Captain John Wilson of the 8th Regiment commanded by Colonel Angus McCoy and Lieutenant Colonel George Wilson in the line of the State of Pennsylvania on continental establishment, that he continued in said corps until May 1779 when he was discharged from said service at Fort McIntosh in the State of Pennsylvania, that he was in the battles of Brandywine, Germantown, Quibble Town, and the Battle with the Indians at Coshocton on the Muskingdom (sic) River and that he has no other evidence, now in his power, of his said services except what is herewith exhibited. And in pursuance of the act of Congress 1820 I do solemnly swear that I was a resident Citizen of the United States on the 16th day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen, and that I have not since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner disposed of my property of any part thereof with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an Act of Congress entitled "An Act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War" passed on the 18th day of March, one thousand eight hundred and eighteen; and that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property or securities, contracts or debts due to me; nor have I any income other than that what is contained in the Schedule hereto annexed and by me subscribed...............
One Judgment on James C. Dunham for $85.00
One Judgment on John S. Taylor for 20.00
One Judgment on Samuel Vilett for 2.00
One Judgment on John Collier for 5.00
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$112.00
I am in due James McConnie by one note of hand...................................$215.00John Guthery
And this declarant further saith that he was formerly by occupation a Farmer but in consequence of old age and infirmity he is unable to pursue any labour toward his support that has no family living with him.
John GutherySworn to and declared on the 13th day of October 1820 in Open Court.
PLEASE SEE JANE RAMSAY NOTE CONCERNING HILLTOUN OF GUTHRIE KNOWN AS PIKERTOUNE (16TH CENTURY SCOTLAND).
From the Histroical Collections of Ohio by Henry Howe Vol. II 1888 we are given:
Among the earliest settlers in and about Piketon, were Jonathan Clark, Charley Cissna, Major Daniels, Joseph J. Martin - who was for years Lord High Of Everything of Pike County - The Brambles, Moores, Browns, Sargents, Praters, Nolans, Guthries and the Lucases. Most of these First Families came into the prairie about 1797, but the Lucas brothers came later.HISTORY OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY....By I. Daniel Rupp....Published by Gilbert Hills, Proprietor & Publisher....Lancaster city, Pa., 1846 (Selected notes and quotations)
"The first known settlements in Cumberland County were made in 1730, and at no great distance from the river. but new settlers came in very rapidly and passed up the North Valley, or the Kittochtinny Valley as then called, following the Conodoguinet and Yellow Breeches Creeks, and locating also upon Silver Spring, Letort Spring, Big Spring, Mean's Spring, Middle Spring, falling Spring, Rocky Spring and the different branches if the Conococheague, until in 1736 a line of settlements extended from the Susquehanna clear through to the western part of the province of Maryland. In 1748 there were 800 taxables in the valley, and in 1751 the number had increased to 1,100 indicating a population of at least 5,000 inhabitants. These, with the exception of about fifty German families in Franklin County, were immigrants from Ireland and Scotland, and the descendants of those who had taken root in Lancaster County.In 1751 a sudden and large increase in the flow of immigration commenced, which ministered greatly to the rapid settlement of the county. This tidal wave owed its origin to a very unusual and novel cause. In 1730 Secretary Logan* (himself an Irishman but in the confidence and pay of the proprietaries, and was probably against his own people) wrote thus: 'I must own from my own experience in the land office that the settlement of five families from Ireland gives me more trouble than fifty of any other people. Before we were broke in upon, ancient friends and first settlers lived happily, but now the case is quite altered.' The quick temper and belligerent character of this people, which kept them generally in a kind of chronic broil with their German neighbors, did not seem to improve with time, for in 1743 Secretary Peters wrote in very much the same strain as had done his predecessor, and even the Quaker forbearance of the Proprietaries finally became exhausted, so that in or about 1750, the year in which Cumberland County was organized, positive orders were issued to all the agents to sell no more land in either York or Lancaster County to the Irish, and to make very advantageous offers to those of them who would remove from these counties to the North Valley. These offers were so liberal that large numbers accepted, and built their huts among the wigwams of the native inhabitants, whom they found to be peaceful but by no means non-resistant."
///////// "In 1735, the North Valley, (now Cumberland and Franklin) was divided into two townships, Pennsborough & Hopewell.......Hopewell was divided in 1741, "by a line beginning at the North Hill, at Benj. Moor"s, thence to widow Hewres's and Samuel Jamison's, and on a straight line to the South Hill, and that the western division be called Antrim, and the eastern Hopewell."
The following account of the Baldwin family is taken from the Baldwin Genealogy by Charles Candee Baldwin:
Tracing back from Lydia Baldwin's father we have Francis Baldwin Sr., who it is inferred was the grand-father of Francis Baldwin Jr., but the name of Francis Baldwin's father has been lost.
Francis Baldwin Sr. came over to America from England with his two brothers, Thomas and John. They first settled, probably at Penn's Neck with other English Baptist families, according to Thomas Baldwin's record, around 1653.
By family tradition and fortified by a statement that Thomas was born in Oxfordshire, England we may justly conclude that this is true of Francis and John. Gilbert Cope thinks they may have been connected with the Baldwins of Buckinghamshire, wealthy yeomen of that county.
Francis Baldwin Sr. is found an early settler in the neighborhood of West Chester County, Pennsylvania. At that time the locality was in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. He was there as early as 1686. That he is the brother of Thomas and John is evidenced by the will of John to sons of his brother Francis, in which he leaves five shillings each to "all my brother Francis' children". The names of only two of these children are given in the will and they inherited, besides, ten pounds. Their names were Thomas and John. Which of these was the probable father of our Francis Jr. is not clear.
Francis Sr.'s name appears in Chester County as witness to deeds in 1691, 1697, 1699 and 1700. In 1691 he received a deed of one hundred acres from Thomas Coebourne, which lay in Chester. The consideration was an annuity. In 1692 John Maddock conveyed fifty acres in Nether Providence, "Nether Cutt", which he purchased of Francis Baldwin. In 1695 he received a record deed from Thomas Coebourne of one hundred acres in Chester, which next year he conveyed to Joseph Coebourne for fifty pounds. Letters of administration were granted August 17th, 1702 to his widow, Cicely, by the Register General at Philadelphia.
Francis Sr. was a miller. He was juror July 19th, 1700. He died in New Castle County in 1702. His wife was Cicely Coebourne, not Colbourne, as given in the Baldwin history and afterward corrected. Cope says he does not know the names of Francis Baldwin Jr.'s children. Again we turn gratefully to Mr. Leckey who supplies this loss of record of our family. They did go to Virginia.
Mr. Leckey's records show that Francis Baldwin Jr. and his wife Charity (Harlan-Hackney) lived in Chester County, Pennsylvania, the same locality as Francis Baldwin Sr. lived and that in 1760 they moved to Franklin County Virginia (now Berkeley County, West Virginia), where she and her second husband are buried in the Greene Springs Meeting House Cemetery.Notes for Joseph Hackney:
Joseph Hackney came from England to America with his parents and settled in New Castle, Delaware. He was married in Old Swedes Church in 1731 to Charity Harlan, daughter of Aaron Harlan. Joseph Hackney died in 1745. His widow, Charity Harlan Hackney was married in 1746 to Francis Baldwin Jr. In 1760 they moved to Frederick County, Virginia. The family were Quakers and records can be found in Hinshaw and "Old Hopewell". Haddon's History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, also gives part of the record. (From "The History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County Pennsylvania and of Allied Families" Compiled by Mary Gray May)Notes for Francis Baldwin, Jr. :
The four Baldwin girls all got warrants to land to which each later received patent in joint tenancy with their respective husbands. (The above from a letter of Leckey to Mrs. Carroll H. May dated January 25, 1950.)The following account of the Baldwin family is taken from the Baldwin Genealogy by Charles Candee Baldwin:
Tracing back from Lydia Baldwin's father we have Francis Baldwin Sr., who it is inferred was the grand-father of Francis Baldwin Jr., but the name of Francis Baldwin's father has been lost.
Francis Baldwin Sr. came over to America from England with his two brothers, Thomas and John. They first settled, probably at Penn's Neck with other English Baptist families, according to Thomas Baldwin's record, around 1653.
By family tradition and fortified by a statement that Thomas was born in Oxfordshire, England we may justly conclude that this is true of Francis and John. Gilbert Cope thinks they may have been connected with the Baldwins of Buckinghamshire, wealthy yeomen of that county.
Francis Baldwin Sr. is found an early settler in the neighborhood of West Chester County, Pennsylvania. At that time the locality was in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. He was there as early as 1686. That he is the brother of Thomas and John is evidenced by the will of John to sons of his brother Francis, in which he leaves five shillings each to "all my brother Francis' children". The names of only two of these children are given in the will and they inherited, besides, ten pounds. Their names were Thomas and John. Which of these was the probable father of our Francis Jr. is not clear.
Francis Sr.'s name appears in Chester County as witness to deeds in 1691, 1697, 1699 and 1700. In 1691 he received a deed of one hundred acres from Thomas Coebourne, which lay in Chester. The consideration was an annuity. In 1692 John Maddock conveyed fifty acres in Nether Providence, "Nether Cutt", which he purchased of Francis Baldwin. In 1695 he received a record deed from Thomas Coebourne of one hundred acres in Chester, which next year he conveyed to Joseph Coebourne for fifty pounds. Letters of administration were granted August 17th, 1702 to his widow, Cicely, by the Register General at Philadelphia.
Francis Sr. was a miller. He was juror July 19th, 1700. He died in New Castle County in 1702. His wife was Cicely Coebourne, not Colbourne, as given in the Baldwin history and afterward corrected. Cope says he does not know the names of Francis Baldwin Jr.'s children. Again we turn gratefully to Mr. Leckey who supplies this loss of record of our family. They did go to Virginia.
Mr. Leckey's records show that Francis Baldwin Jr. and his wife Charity (Harlan-Hackney) lived in Chester County, Pennsylvania, the same locality as Francis Baldwin Sr. lived and that in 1760 they moved to Franklin County Virginia (now Berkeley County, West Virginia), where she and her second husband are buried in the Greene Springs Meeting House Cemetery.Notes for Joseph Hackney:
Joseph Hackney came from England to America with his parents and settled in New Castle, Delaware. He was married in Old Swedes Church in 1731 to Charity Harlan, daughter of Aaron Harlan. Joseph Hackney died in 1745. His widow, Charity Harlan Hackney was married in 1746 to Francis Baldwin Jr. In 1760 they moved to Frederick County, Virginia. The family were Quakers and records can be found in Hinshaw and "Old Hopewell". Haddon's History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, also gives part of the record. (From "The History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County Pennsylvania and of Allied Families" Compiled by Mary Gray May)Notes for Francis Baldwin, Jr. :
The four Baldwin girls all got warrants to land to which each later received patent in joint tenancy with their respective husbands. (The above from a letter of Leckey to Mrs. Carroll H. May dated January 25, 1950.)
The following account of the Baldwin family is taken from the Baldwin Genealogy by Charles Candee Baldwin:
Tracing back from Lydia Baldwin's father we have Francis Baldwin Sr., who it is inferred was the grand-father of Francis Baldwin Jr., but the name of Francis Baldwin's father has been lost.
Francis Baldwin Sr. came over to America from England with his two brothers, Thomas and John. They first settled, probably at Penn's Neck with other English Baptist families, according to Thomas Baldwin's record, around 1653.
By family tradition and fortified by a statement that Thomas was born in Oxfordshire, England we may justly conclude that this is true of Francis and John. Gilbert Cope thinks they may have been connected with the Baldwins of Buckinghamshire, wealthy yeomen of that county.
Francis Baldwin Sr. is found an early settler in the neighborhood of West Chester County, Pennsylvania. At that time the locality was in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. He was there as early as 1686. That he is the brother of Thomas and John is evidenced by the will of John to sons of his brother Francis, in which he leaves five shillings each to "all my brother Francis' children". The names of only two of these children are given in the will and they inherited, besides, ten pounds. Their names were Thomas and John. Which of these was the probable father of our Francis Jr. is not clear.
Francis Sr.'s name appears in Chester County as witness to deeds in 1691, 1697, 1699 and 1700. In 1691 he received a deed of one hundred acres from Thomas Coebourne, which lay in Chester. The consideration was an annuity. In 1692 John Maddock conveyed fifty acres in Nether Providence, "Nether Cutt", which he purchased of Francis Baldwin. In 1695 he received a record deed from Thomas Coebourne of one hundred acres in Chester, which next year he conveyed to Joseph Coebourne for fifty pounds. Letters of administration were granted August 17th, 1702 to his widow, Cicely, by the Register General at Philadelphia.
Francis Sr. was a miller. He was juror July 19th, 1700. He died in New Castle County in 1702. His wife was Cicely Coebourne, not Colbourne, as given in the Baldwin history and afterward corrected. Cope says he does not know the names of Francis Baldwin Jr.'s children. Again we turn gratefully to Mr. Leckey who supplies this loss of record of our family. They did go to Virginia.
Mr. Leckey's records show that Francis Baldwin Jr. and his wife Charity (Harlan-Hackney) lived in Chester County, Pennsylvania, the same locality as Francis Baldwin Sr. lived and that in 1760 they moved to Franklin County Virginia (now Berkeley County, West Virginia), where she and her second husband are buried in the Greene Springs Meeting House Cemetery.Notes for Joseph Hackney:
Joseph Hackney came from England to America with his parents and settled in New Castle, Delaware. He was married in Old Swedes Church in 1731 to Charity Harlan, daughter of Aaron Harlan. Joseph Hackney died in 1745. His widow, Charity Harlan Hackney was married in 1746 to Francis Baldwin Jr. In 1760 they moved to Frederick County, Virginia. The family were Quakers and records can be found in Hinshaw and "Old Hopewell". Haddon's History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, also gives part of the record. (From "The History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County Pennsylvania and of Allied Families" Compiled by Mary Gray May)Notes for Francis Baldwin, Jr. :
The four Baldwin girls all got warrants to land to which each later received patent in joint tenancy with their respective husbands. (The above from a letter of Leckey to Mrs. Carroll H. May dated January 25, 1950.)The following account of the Baldwin family is taken from the Baldwin Genealogy by Charles Candee Baldwin:
Tracing back from Lydia Baldwin's father we have Francis Baldwin Sr., who it is inferred was the grand-father of Francis Baldwin Jr., but the name of Francis Baldwin's father has been lost.
Francis Baldwin Sr. came over to America from England with his two brothers, Thomas and John. They first settled, probably at Penn's Neck with other English Baptist families, according to Thomas Baldwin's record, around 1653.
By family tradition and fortified by a statement that Thomas was born in Oxfordshire, England we may justly conclude that this is true of Francis and John. Gilbert Cope thinks they may have been connected with the Baldwins of Buckinghamshire, wealthy yeomen of that county.
Francis Baldwin Sr. is found an early settler in the neighborhood of West Chester County, Pennsylvania. At that time the locality was in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. He was there as early as 1686. That he is the brother of Thomas and John is evidenced by the will of John to sons of his brother Francis, in which he leaves five shillings each to "all my brother Francis' children". The names of only two of these children are given in the will and they inherited, besides, ten pounds. Their names were Thomas and John. Which of these was the probable father of our Francis Jr. is not clear.
Francis Sr.'s name appears in Chester County as witness to deeds in 1691, 1697, 1699 and 1700. In 1691 he received a deed of one hundred acres from Thomas Coebourne, which lay in Chester. The consideration was an annuity. In 1692 John Maddock conveyed fifty acres in Nether Providence, "Nether Cutt", which he purchased of Francis Baldwin. In 1695 he received a record deed from Thomas Coebourne of one hundred acres in Chester, which next year he conveyed to Joseph Coebourne for fifty pounds. Letters of administration were granted August 17th, 1702 to his widow, Cicely, by the Register General at Philadelphia.
Francis Sr. was a miller. He was juror July 19th, 1700. He died in New Castle County in 1702. His wife was Cicely Coebourne, not Colbourne, as given in the Baldwin history and afterward corrected. Cope says he does not know the names of Francis Baldwin Jr.'s children. Again we turn gratefully to Mr. Leckey who supplies this loss of record of our family. They did go to Virginia.
Mr. Leckey's records show that Francis Baldwin Jr. and his wife Charity (Harlan-Hackney) lived in Chester County, Pennsylvania, the same locality as Francis Baldwin Sr. lived and that in 1760 they moved to Franklin County Virginia (now Berkeley County, West Virginia), where she and her second husband are buried in the Greene Springs Meeting House Cemetery.Notes for Joseph Hackney:
Joseph Hackney came from England to America with his parents and settled in New Castle, Delaware. He was married in Old Swedes Church in 1731 to Charity Harlan, daughter of Aaron Harlan. Joseph Hackney died in 1745. His widow, Charity Harlan Hackney was married in 1746 to Francis Baldwin Jr. In 1760 they moved to Frederick County, Virginia. The family were Quakers and records can be found in Hinshaw and "Old Hopewell". Haddon's History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, also gives part of the record. (From "The History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County Pennsylvania and of Allied Families" Compiled by Mary Gray May)Notes for Francis Baldwin, Jr. :
The four Baldwin girls all got warrants to land to which each later received patent in joint tenancy with their respective husbands. (The above from a letter of Leckey to Mrs. Carroll H. May dated January 25, 1950.)
The following account of the Baldwin family is taken from the Baldwin Genealogy by Charles Candee Baldwin:
Tracing back from Lydia Baldwin's father we have Francis Baldwin Sr., who it is inferred was the grand-father of Francis Baldwin Jr., but the name of Francis Baldwin's father has been lost.
Francis Baldwin Sr. came over to America from England with his two brothers, Thomas and John. They first settled, probably at Penn's Neck with other English Baptist families, according to Thomas Baldwin's record, around 1653.
By family tradition and fortified by a statement that Thomas was born in Oxfordshire, England we may justly conclude that this is true of Francis and John. Gilbert Cope thinks they may have been connected with the Baldwins of Buckinghamshire, wealthy yeomen of that county.
Francis Baldwin Sr. is found an early settler in the neighborhood of West Chester County, Pennsylvania. At that time the locality was in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. He was there as early as 1686. That he is the brother of Thomas and John is evidenced by the will of John to sons of his brother Francis, in which he leaves five shillings each to "all my brother Francis' children". The names of only two of these children are given in the will and they inherited, besides, ten pounds. Their names were Thomas and John. Which of these was the probable father of our Francis Jr. is not clear.
Francis Sr.'s name appears in Chester County as witness to deeds in 1691, 1697, 1699 and 1700. In 1691 he received a deed of one hundred acres from Thomas Coebourne, which lay in Chester. The consideration was an annuity. In 1692 John Maddock conveyed fifty acres in Nether Providence, "Nether Cutt", which he purchased of Francis Baldwin. In 1695 he received a record deed from Thomas Coebourne of one hundred acres in Chester, which next year he conveyed to Joseph Coebourne for fifty pounds. Letters of administration were granted August 17th, 1702 to his widow, Cicely, by the Register General at Philadelphia.
Francis Sr. was a miller. He was juror July 19th, 1700. He died in New Castle County in 1702. His wife was Cicely Coebourne, not Colbourne, as given in the Baldwin history and afterward corrected. Cope says he does not know the names of Francis Baldwin Jr.'s children. Again we turn gratefully to Mr. Leckey who supplies this loss of record of our family. They did go to Virginia.
Mr. Leckey's records show that Francis Baldwin Jr. and his wife Charity (Harlan-Hackney) lived in Chester County, Pennsylvania, the same locality as Francis Baldwin Sr. lived and that in 1760 they moved to Franklin County Virginia (now Berkeley County, West Virginia), where she and her second husband are buried in the Greene Springs Meeting House Cemetery.Notes for Joseph Hackney:
Joseph Hackney came from England to America with his parents and settled in New Castle, Delaware. He was married in Old Swedes Church in 1731 to Charity Harlan, daughter of Aaron Harlan. Joseph Hackney died in 1745. His widow, Charity Harlan Hackney was married in 1746 to Francis Baldwin Jr. In 1760 they moved to Frederick County, Virginia. The family were Quakers and records can be found in Hinshaw and "Old Hopewell". Haddon's History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, also gives part of the record. (From "The History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County Pennsylvania and of Allied Families" Compiled by Mary Gray May)Notes for Francis Baldwin, Jr. :
The four Baldwin girls all got warrants to land to which each later received patent in joint tenancy with their respective husbands. (The above from a letter of Leckey to Mrs. Carroll H. May dated January 25, 1950.)Bio
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The following account of the Baldwin family is taken from the Baldwin Genealogy by Charles Candee Baldwin:
Tracing back from Lydia Baldwin's father we have Francis Baldwin Sr., who it is inferred was the grand-father of Francis Baldwin Jr., but the name of Francis Baldwin's father has been lost.
Francis Baldwin Sr. came over to America from England with his two brothers, Thomas and John. They first settled, probably at Penn's Neck with other English Baptist families, according to Thomas Baldwin's record, around 1653.
By family tradition and fortified by a statement that Thomas was born in Oxfordshire, England we may justly conclude that this is true of Francis and John. Gilbert Cope thinks they may have been connected with the Baldwins of Buckinghamshire, wealthy yeomen of that county.
Francis Baldwin Sr. is found an early settler in the neighborhood of West Chester County, Pennsylvania. At that time the locality was in Delaware County, Pennsylvania. He was there as early as 1686. That he is the brother of Thomas and John is evidenced by the will of John to sons of his brother Francis, in which he leaves five shillings each to "all my brother Francis' children". The names of only two of these children are given in the will and they inherited, besides, ten pounds. Their names were Thomas and John. Which of these was the probable father of our Francis Jr. is not clear.
Francis Sr.'s name appears in Chester County as witness to deeds in 1691, 1697, 1699 and 1700. In 1691 he received a deed of one hundred acres from Thomas Coebourne, which lay in Chester. The consideration was an annuity. In 1692 John Maddock conveyed fifty acres in Nether Providence, "Nether Cutt", which he purchased of Francis Baldwin. In 1695 he received a record deed from Thomas Coebourne of one hundred acres in Chester, which next year he conveyed to Joseph Coebourne for fifty pounds. Letters of administration were granted August 17th, 1702 to his widow, Cicely, by the Register General at Philadelphia.
Francis Sr. was a miller. He was juror July 19th, 1700. He died in New Castle County in 1702. His wife was Cicely Coebourne, not Colbourne, as given in the Baldwin history and afterward corrected. Cope says he does not know the names of Francis Baldwin Jr.'s children. Again we turn gratefully to Mr. Leckey who supplies this loss of record of our family. They did go to Virginia.
Mr. Leckey's records show that Francis Baldwin Jr. and his wife Charity (Harlan-Hackney) lived in Chester County, Pennsylvania, the same locality as Francis Baldwin Sr. lived and that in 1760 they moved to Franklin County Virginia (now Berkeley County, West Virginia), where she and her second husband are buried in the Greene Springs Meeting House Cemetery.Notes for Joseph Hackney:
Joseph Hackney came from England to America with his parents and settled in New Castle, Delaware. He was married in Old Swedes Church in 1731 to Charity Harlan, daughter of Aaron Harlan. Joseph Hackney died in 1745. His widow, Charity Harlan Hackney was married in 1746 to Francis Baldwin Jr. In 1760 they moved to Frederick County, Virginia. The family were Quakers and records can be found in Hinshaw and "Old Hopewell". Haddon's History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania, also gives part of the record. (From "The History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County Pennsylvania and of Allied Families" Compiled by Mary Gray May)Notes for Francis Baldwin, Jr. :
The four Baldwin girls all got warrants to land to which each later received patent in joint tenancy with their respective husbands. (The above from a letter of Leckey to Mrs. Carroll H. May dated January 25, 1950.)
Died in infancy.
Died in infancy.