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Pasca married John Mathew 22 September 1624 - I had the date as 22 June 1618, taken from the IGI. Do you have a view on the real date?Pasca was having children in 1641, which would make her birthdate (based upon a maximum age for childbirth of 55) no earlier than 1586 and probably up to 10 years later.
Pasca married in 1624, the usual age of marriage at the time was about 25 years old for women. This would give her a birthdate of about 1599, or 1593 if the IGI is to be believed.
It is unlikely, given the date of the marriage that she would have been born after 1600.
This gives a birthdate between 1586 and 1600, but more likely within 5 years of 1593.
I have tried to reason the most likely parents as shown below. Can you add to this with other factors, such as naming patterns for Pasca's children?The number of Ripper family members alive and capable of having children at that time were limited to the following:
* Henry Ripper who married Agnes Foot in 1574. They lived at Trew and are my direct line. Their families are reasonably well documented in wills for the time and there is no mention of the name Pasca or Mathewe in any of them. Their children were Richard, Elizabeth who married Edward Nungeawe, Benedict who married Elizabeth Chiwarton and Robert who married Maria Marke. None of the children used Pasca or any variant in the naming patterns of their own children. All the children of Henry & Agnes were born in the 1580s. I consider Henry & Agnes to be unlikely parents for Pasca.
* James Ripper who maried Nycoll Walter in 1578. I have no mention of James & Nycoll having any family or records beyond their marriage. They either moved away or had a singularly unrecordable existence - even to the point of burial. I consider James & Nycoll to be unlikely parents for Pasca.
* William Ripper who married Pascase Trenwheale in 1583. William died in 1616. I have no note of Pasca's burial but it is unlikely that she remarried and was still having children in 1641, having been born around 1560. They had three children, that I know about - Ann (born and died about 1588); Andrew (b about 1585) who married Elizabeth Realie in Breage in 1609; Elizabeth (b abt 1591 but may not have survived beyond infancy).
Whilst it is not beyond the realms of understanding for William to also have had a daughter Pasca who survived beyond his own death, still unmarried, it is more likely that he would have mentioned her in his will. Whilst the position of the woman in the family was not as legally prominent as it is today, William can be seen bequeathing goods beyond the immediate family. It is not likely that Pasca was the child of William & Pascase.
* Pascaw Ripper & Anne Wattye who married in 1591. Other than their marriage and their children, little is known about this family. They had, to the best of my knowledge, three children - John (b about 1598 and dies as an infant); Catheryn (b about 1599) of whom nothing more is known; Elizabeth (b 1603) of whom nothing more is known. Given the name Pasca, this is the most likely option so far, but no other data can be applied to make this likelihood more firm. On a random thought basis - could Catheryn & Pasca be one and the same? Could they have had a child in the period before the birth of John? To have waited to start a family from 1591 to 1598 could be deemed as unusual. This would warrant a closer reading of the parish register.
* Alexander Ripper who married Christian Hoggye in 1590. Little is known of this family. They moved away from Breage to St Anthony in Meneage, where their son John was baptised in 1598. There is no evidence to link this family to Pasca.
* John Ripper who married Constance Squire in 1586. This is a possibility. They had 6 children, the first of whom was Alice who was born about 1590 and had a child by a John Kelly in 1613; they named the child Mary. Alice later married a William Cornish in 1621. The second child of John & Constance was a Pasca Ripper. I have two records which conflict - a record showing the burial of a Pasca in 1592 and a supposedly comprehensive list of burials for the same village, Breage, but which shows no burial entry for a Pasca Ripper. Ordinarily I would be encouraged to think that the burial entry was a baptism erroneously recorded but there is no baptism on the IGI for a Pasca in this period. A sound case for a closer look at the parish register. The registers are written in secretary hand and are not easy to read, it's difficult to say which is the most likely. There is one other twist to this though, and that is the will of Pasca's grandfather, John who died in 1615. His will does not mention a Pasca, but does mention other grandchildren. This tends to encourage the infant burial theory.
John & Constance also had another child who died in infancy, Janet. I wonder about this. Pasca can look like Janet in secretary hand and Janet was an uncommon name for the times.
John and Constance's next child was Thomas who was primary beneficiary in his grandfather's will. The remaining two children were Stephen & Phillip, also mentioned as beneficiaries in their grandfather's will.* Elizabeth Ripper married John Pascowe in 1601 and I have not traced any of their children to date. The surname may be wrong, but it's too similar to be discounted. It would mean, though, that if Pasca was their child that she would be rather young at the time of her own marriage.
* Thomas Ripper married Jane in December 1582. I have no further life events for these folk.
There are no other prospective parents for Pasca, as far as I can tell. On balance I would think that the most likely parents would be either Pascaw Ripper & Anne Wattye or John Ripper & Constance Squire, but the lack of a mention of a Pasca in the will of John's father (1615) encourages me to believe that Pascaw Ripper & Anne Wattye are the true parents.